From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Delayed hotplug events
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 00:07:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040619000733.GD24902@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40D17ECC.20501@suse.de>
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 10:12:33AM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> Oliver Neukum wrote:
> >Am Freitag, 18. Juni 2004 01:57 schrieb Greg KH:
> >
> >>>On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 03:22:07PM -0500, linas@austin.ibm.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>By contrast, I can't see what's architecturally unclean about
> >>>>having device drivers make the call as to when they think they
> >>>>are finally up and ready to go, e.g. by making one puny subroutine
> >>>>call at the end of thier init sequence. Why would this be a bad idea?
> >>>
> >>>Because it would be a major architecture change in the middle of a
> >>>stable kernel series. I'm not going to agree to do that at this time.
> >
> >
> >If you are willing to use a model of a blocking counter you can confine
> >the changes to just the actual hotplug generation. The change is well
> >encapsuled. Drivers not caring about the block/unblock affair simply get
> >the old behavior.
> >It's less elegant than waiting for the specific files, but workable.
> >
> You mean add an additional sysfs attribute which serves as an checkpoint
> (i.e. if this attribute exists, the initialisation is done)?
That is what udev does today. No kernel changes are needed to implement
this.
> Neat. Fixing the drivers (or even adding another generic function to
> drivers/base/core.c) should be pretty straightforward.
> One could even add another ENV which contains the name of the checkpoint
> attribute; this way it's pretty clear to any script whether it needs to
> wait or not.
Yeah, we could add this to the drivers if you really need to, but again,
userspace can do it just as easily.
thanks,
greg k-h
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-19 0:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-17 11:21 Delayed hotplug events Hannes Reinecke
2004-06-17 18:09 ` Greg KH
2004-06-17 19:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-17 20:22 ` linas
2004-06-17 23:29 ` Patrick Mansfield
2004-06-17 23:39 ` Greg KH
2004-06-17 23:40 ` Greg KH
2004-06-17 23:57 ` Greg KH
2004-06-18 7:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-18 8:12 ` Hannes Reinecke
2004-06-18 8:47 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-18 9:32 ` Hannes Reinecke
2004-06-18 11:28 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-19 0:07 ` Greg KH [this message]
2004-06-19 8:16 ` Oliver Neukum
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