* Re: [Pcihpd-discuss] Hotplug SIG
2004-08-12 19:13 [Pcihpd-discuss] Hotplug SIG Matthew Wilcox
@ 2004-08-12 19:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-12 19:58 ` Greg KH
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From: Matthew Wilcox @ 2004-08-12 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-hotplug
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 08:13:45PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> So I really don't see the need for a Hotplug SIG -- there's lots of work
> going on independently that can go on independently and we really don't
> need to talk to each other very much.
As evidenced by the pinheaded morons on lhcs-devel who refuse mail from
anyone not in their little clique. Antisocial bastards.
--
"Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon
the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those
conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse
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2004-08-12 19:13 [Pcihpd-discuss] Hotplug SIG Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-12 19:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
@ 2004-08-12 19:58 ` Greg KH
2004-08-12 20:15 ` Silbermann, Martine
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From: Greg KH @ 2004-08-12 19:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-hotplug
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 08:13:45PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>
> So I really don't see the need for a Hotplug SIG -- there's lots of work
> going on independently that can go on independently and we really don't
> need to talk to each other very much.
I brought this, and almost all the other questions up about this group a
few days ago on the hotplug-sig list. Everyone can see the thread at:
http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/hotplug_sig/2004-August/000002.html
so they don't dig up the same issues that have no resolutions.
And yes, I completly agree that these need to be separate "SIGs". The
only thing these three groups have in common is one word.
thanks,
greg k-h
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2004-08-12 19:13 [Pcihpd-discuss] Hotplug SIG Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-12 19:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-12 19:58 ` Greg KH
@ 2004-08-12 20:15 ` Silbermann, Martine
2004-08-23 22:57 ` Linas Vepstas
2004-08-23 23:13 ` Greg KH
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From: Silbermann, Martine @ 2004-08-12 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-hotplug
....guess that one won't make it through the moderator's approval :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: willy@www.linux.org.uk [mailto:willy@www.linux.org.uk] On Behalf
Of Matthew Wilcox
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:32 PM
To: Matthew Wilcox
Cc: Silbermann, Martine; lhcs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net;
lhms-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; lhns-devel@lists.sourceforge.net;
pcihpd-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net;
linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Pcihpd-discuss] Hotplug SIG
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 08:13:45PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> So I really don't see the need for a Hotplug SIG -- there's lots of
> work going on independently that can go on independently and we really
> don't need to talk to each other very much.
As evidenced by the pinheaded morons on lhcs-devel who refuse mail from
anyone not in their little clique. Antisocial bastards.
--
"Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon
the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those
conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and
refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by
convince
himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep
he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." -- Mark Twain
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* Re: [Pcihpd-discuss] Hotplug SIG
2004-08-12 19:13 [Pcihpd-discuss] Hotplug SIG Matthew Wilcox
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2004-08-12 20:15 ` Silbermann, Martine
@ 2004-08-23 22:57 ` Linas Vepstas
2004-08-23 23:13 ` Greg KH
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From: Linas Vepstas @ 2004-08-23 22:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-hotplug
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 12:58:28PM -0700, Greg KH was heard to remark:
>
> And yes, I completly agree that these need to be separate "SIGs". The
> only thing these three groups have in common is one word.
Greg, this is not entirely true. It would be very cool if there
was a gnome/KDE graphical client that drew some kind of topology/tree
diagram of all the various devices in ones system (be they memory, cpu,
pci, scsi, etc.) and then, by mouse-clicking on the matching icon,
you got info about that devices geographical location, an option
menu to add/remove, status bits, etc.
This kind of management client crosses the boundaries of the various
hotplug sigs.
--linas
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2004-08-12 19:13 [Pcihpd-discuss] Hotplug SIG Matthew Wilcox
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2004-08-23 22:57 ` Linas Vepstas
@ 2004-08-23 23:13 ` Greg KH
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From: Greg KH @ 2004-08-23 23:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-hotplug
On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 05:57:34PM -0500, Linas Vepstas wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 12:58:28PM -0700, Greg KH was heard to remark:
> >
> > And yes, I completly agree that these need to be separate "SIGs". The
> > only thing these three groups have in common is one word.
>
> Greg, this is not entirely true.
I think it is, if you don't think so, please show me where I am wrong.
> It would be very cool if there
> was a gnome/KDE graphical client that drew some kind of topology/tree
> diagram of all the various devices in ones system (be they memory, cpu,
> pci, scsi, etc.) and then, by mouse-clicking on the matching icon,
> you got info about that devices geographical location, an option
> menu to add/remove, status bits, etc.
You haven't run HAL on Gnome, have you...
> This kind of management client crosses the boundaries of the various
> hotplug sigs.
It also is not the intention of this SIG, as they do not seem to know
what their intention is, nor is it a kernel issue at all to create such
a program.
So, despite your description of a tool that might be useful for you, I
still stand by my "PCI hotplug has nothing to do with CPU hotplug or
memory hotplug or USB hotplug or PCMCIA hotplug becides the single
word" statment.
Please stop cross-posting to all of these mailing lists at once, it's
not nice, and I will not be doing it again.
greg k-h
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