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From: Patrick Mansfield <patmans@us.ibm.com>
To: Roman Kagan <rkagan@mail.ru>, Willem Riede <osst@riede.org>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:33:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050218183350.GA21954@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050218181106.GC4424@katya>

On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 09:11:06PM +0300, Roman Kagan wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 09:17:37AM -0800, Patrick Mansfield wrote:
> > You could also append the sdev->vendor and sdev->model, and use alias wild
> > cards.
> 
> String values haven't been used in the aliases so far, and I think for a
> reason: with all the unpredictable weird characters and string lengths
> they would make maintainance harder, not easier.

Yes, but modprobe should just work with them, even if scripts or other
usage has problems. I haven't seen any really odd strings for vendor or
model, ususally just spaces and alphanumeric, I don't remember (or even
remember where to look) for the allowed characters; there are always
devices that behave badly.

> > Also, sg loading would want (along with modprobe load all feature):
> > 
> > MODULE_ALIAS("scsi-type-*");
> 
> Is it certain that it can live together with s[dtr]?  I thought these
> guys now handled all the ioctls sg was supposed to themselves...

Yes.

The block SG_IO handles the ioctls, but not devices without a SCSI upper
level driver (i.e. not tape, disk or cdrom).

For example, media changers (though a driver has just been submitted),
scanners, enclosure devices, or printers (I've never seen any scsi
printers).

In my experience, there are always applications that want to use the
standard device driver (/dev/sda etc.) and others that want to use a
generic driver.

-- Patrick Mansfield


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  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-18 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-11  0:40 [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Greg KH
2005-02-11  0:52 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11  1:30   ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11  6:41     ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 11:47       ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11 17:06         ` Greg KH
2005-02-12  0:02           ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11  1:07 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-02-11  1:16   ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:40     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-14  4:06     ` Lee Revell
2005-02-14  8:32       ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14  8:51         ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-02-14 23:04           ` Lee Revell
2005-02-14 23:16             ` Greg KH
2005-02-14 23:28               ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 15:15                 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-02-15 20:12                   ` kernel
2005-02-14 23:21             ` Roland Dreier
2005-02-14 23:45               ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Lee Revell
2005-02-15  0:16                 ` Tim Bird
2005-02-15  1:17                   ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15  1:45                     ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Kyle Moffett
2005-02-15  7:32                       ` Gábor Lénárt
2005-02-15  8:34                         ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-15  9:27                           ` [OT] speeding boot process Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15  8:55                       ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Helge Hafting
2005-02-15  9:33                         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15 13:20                           ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-15 13:28                             ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-15 13:50                             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15  3:38                     ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-15  5:52                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-15  6:15                         ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-15  6:39                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-15 19:32                           ` Lee Revell
2005-02-17 18:37                     ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) jlnance
2005-02-17 19:18                       ` Chris Larson
2005-02-19  5:53                         ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-17 19:58                       ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Helge Hafting
2005-02-19  5:56                         ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-19 22:47                           ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Helge Hafting
2005-02-20  2:09                             ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-15  8:33                 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14 23:43             ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 19:51               ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 21:02                 ` Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 21:32                   ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-15 21:09                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-15 19:56               ` Optimizing disk-I/O [was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release] Linas Vepstas
2005-02-15 20:46                 ` Adam Goode
2005-02-15 21:11                   ` Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 21:21                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-11  3:18 ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Bill Nottingham
2005-02-11  6:46   ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 16:19     ` Christian Bornträger
2005-02-11 17:01       ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:01         ` Erik Andersen
2005-02-11 19:23           ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:37             ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 21:49               ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:06                 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 22:13                   ` Greg KH
2005-02-12  0:48                     ` Ingo Oeser
2005-02-14 22:43                       ` Greg KH
2005-02-11  8:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11  8:17 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11  9:52 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-02-11 17:08   ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 10:53 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 17:41 ` Christian Bornträger
2005-02-11 18:15 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 18:47 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 19:33 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:36 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:40 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 19:57 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:06 ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-11 21:01   ` Greg KH
2005-02-12  8:30     ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-14 22:36       ` Greg KH
2005-02-15  5:39         ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-15  7:14           ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:10 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 20:11 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:20 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 20:44 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:46 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:56 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 21:01 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-11 21:10 ` Greg KH
2005-02-17  6:46   ` Michael Tokarev
2005-02-11 21:21 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-11 21:30 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:33 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:54 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 21:57 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:05 ` Bill Nottingham
2005-02-11 22:12 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:13 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 22:16 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 22:18 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 22:45 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 22:55 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 23:05 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 23:17 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 23:29 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 23:35 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-12  0:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12  0:17 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-12  0:34 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12 11:43 ` Pozsár Balázs
2005-02-12 12:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12 16:27 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-02-14 22:42 ` Greg KH
2005-02-15  7:34 ` Greg KH
2005-02-15  8:15 ` Christian Zoz
2005-02-15 10:25 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-02-15 12:20 ` [sane-devel] " Julien BLACHE
2005-02-16 10:51 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:07 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:11 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-16 11:18 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:27 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 12:37 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-16 15:17 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 16:08 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-16 23:02 ` Willem Riede
2005-02-16 23:17 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 23:32 ` Willem Riede
2005-02-18 17:17   ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-02-18 18:11     ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-18 18:33       ` Patrick Mansfield [this message]
2005-02-18 19:41         ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-18 20:17           ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-02-17  9:12 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-21 20:40 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-22 10:35 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-23  0:44 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-23 11:40 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-23 13:04 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-24  6:27 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-24 19:28 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-25 22:07 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:07 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:11 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:12 ` Greg KH
2005-02-26 17:13 ` Roman Kagan

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