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From: Patrick Mansfield <patmans@us.ibm.com>
To: Roman Kagan <rkagan@mail.ru>, Willem Riede <osst@riede.org>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:17:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050218201756.GA23714@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050218194135.GD4424@katya>

On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 10:41:35PM +0300, Roman Kagan wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 10:33:50AM -0800, Patrick Mansfield wrote:
> > The block SG_IO handles the ioctls, but not devices without a SCSI upper
> > level driver (i.e. not tape, disk or cdrom).
> 
> Then it might make sense to explicitly list in sg.c the TYPE_* not
> matched by s[dtr].

sg can be used even if another scsi upper level driver is loaded.

fedora core tried something like that for a while, I'm not sure what
happened (besides it being really hard to do), and haven't noticed
anything different in recent (2.6.x) fc kernels.

> So these drivers can compete for the same device?  Are there
> deterministic rules on which one is supposed to win?  And is there a
> userspace interface to unbind one driver and bind another?  Otherwise it
> may mean that automatic module loading is inappropriate here at all...

No to all.

It is OK to autoload sg, it has special handling. Even though greg
probably hates it, it is much better than a /proc/bus/scsi ;-)

-- Patrick Mansfield


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  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-18 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-11  0:40 [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Greg KH
2005-02-11  0:52 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11  1:30   ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11  6:41     ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 11:47       ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11 17:06         ` Greg KH
2005-02-12  0:02           ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11  1:07 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-02-11  1:16   ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:40     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-14  4:06     ` Lee Revell
2005-02-14  8:32       ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14  8:51         ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-02-14 23:04           ` Lee Revell
2005-02-14 23:16             ` Greg KH
2005-02-14 23:28               ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 15:15                 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-02-15 20:12                   ` kernel
2005-02-14 23:21             ` Roland Dreier
2005-02-14 23:45               ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Lee Revell
2005-02-15  0:16                 ` Tim Bird
2005-02-15  1:17                   ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15  1:45                     ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Kyle Moffett
2005-02-15  7:32                       ` Gábor Lénárt
2005-02-15  8:34                         ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-15  9:27                           ` [OT] speeding boot process Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15  8:55                       ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Helge Hafting
2005-02-15  9:33                         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15 13:20                           ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-15 13:28                             ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-15 13:50                             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15  3:38                     ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-15  5:52                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-15  6:15                         ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-15  6:39                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-15 19:32                           ` Lee Revell
2005-02-17 18:37                     ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) jlnance
2005-02-17 19:18                       ` Chris Larson
2005-02-19  5:53                         ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-17 19:58                       ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Helge Hafting
2005-02-19  5:56                         ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-19 22:47                           ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Helge Hafting
2005-02-20  2:09                             ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-15  8:33                 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14 23:43             ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 19:51               ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 21:02                 ` Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 21:32                   ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-15 21:09                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-15 19:56               ` Optimizing disk-I/O [was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release] Linas Vepstas
2005-02-15 20:46                 ` Adam Goode
2005-02-15 21:11                   ` Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 21:21                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-11  3:18 ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Bill Nottingham
2005-02-11  6:46   ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 16:19     ` Christian Bornträger
2005-02-11 17:01       ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:01         ` Erik Andersen
2005-02-11 19:23           ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:37             ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 21:49               ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:06                 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 22:13                   ` Greg KH
2005-02-12  0:48                     ` Ingo Oeser
2005-02-14 22:43                       ` Greg KH
2005-02-11  8:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11  8:17 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11  9:52 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-02-11 17:08   ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 10:53 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 17:41 ` Christian Bornträger
2005-02-11 18:15 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 18:47 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 19:33 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:36 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:40 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 19:57 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:06 ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-11 21:01   ` Greg KH
2005-02-12  8:30     ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-14 22:36       ` Greg KH
2005-02-15  5:39         ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-15  7:14           ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:10 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 20:11 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:20 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 20:44 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:46 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:56 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 21:01 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-11 21:10 ` Greg KH
2005-02-17  6:46   ` Michael Tokarev
2005-02-11 21:21 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-11 21:30 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:33 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:54 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 21:57 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:05 ` Bill Nottingham
2005-02-11 22:12 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:13 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 22:16 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 22:18 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 22:45 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 22:55 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 23:05 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 23:17 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 23:29 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 23:35 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-12  0:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12  0:17 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-12  0:34 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12 11:43 ` Pozsár Balázs
2005-02-12 12:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12 16:27 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-02-14 22:42 ` Greg KH
2005-02-15  7:34 ` Greg KH
2005-02-15  8:15 ` Christian Zoz
2005-02-15 10:25 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-02-15 12:20 ` [sane-devel] " Julien BLACHE
2005-02-16 10:51 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:07 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:11 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-16 11:18 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:27 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 12:37 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-16 15:17 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 16:08 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-16 23:02 ` Willem Riede
2005-02-16 23:17 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 23:32 ` Willem Riede
2005-02-18 17:17   ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-02-18 18:11     ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-18 18:33       ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-02-18 19:41         ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-18 20:17           ` Patrick Mansfield [this message]
2005-02-17  9:12 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-21 20:40 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-22 10:35 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-23  0:44 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-23 11:40 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-23 13:04 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-24  6:27 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-24 19:28 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-25 22:07 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:07 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:11 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:12 ` Greg KH
2005-02-26 17:13 ` Roman Kagan

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