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From: Per Svennerbrandt <per.svennerbrandt@lbi.se>
To: Per Liden <per@fukt.bth.se>
Cc: linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 002 release
Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 21:13:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050509211323.GB5297@tsiryulnik> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0505090025280.7682@1-1-2-5a.f.sth.bostream.se>

* Per Liden (per@fukt.bth.se) wrote:
> On Fri, 6 May 2005, Greg KH wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > Now, with the 2.6.12-rc3 kernel, and a patch for module-init-tools, the
> > USB hotplug program can be written with a simple one line shell script:
> > 	modprobe $MODALIAS
> 
> Nice, but why not just convert all this to a call to 
> request_module($MODALIAS)? Seems to me like the natural thing to do.

I actually have a pretty hackish proof-of-consept patch that does
basicly that, and have been running it on my systems for the past five
months or so, if anybody's interested.

Along with it I also have a patch witch exports the module aliases for
PCI and USB devices through sysfs. With it the "coldplugging" of a
system (module wise) can be reduced to pretty much:

#!/bin/sh

for DEV in /sys/bus/{pci,usb}/devices/*; do
	modprobe `cat $DEV/modalias`
done

(And I actually run exactly that on my laptop, and it works surpricingly
well. (Largly due to the fact that the usb-controller is always attached
below the pci-bus of course, but it really wouldn't take that much work 
to make it do the right thing even without relying on any specific 
ordering/topology))

With the above in place my system does all the module-loading that I
care about automaticly, and most importantly does so without relying
on an /etc/hotplug/ dir with everything and it's grandma in it (or at
least thousands of lines of shellscripting).

But since the request_modalias() thing seemed as such an obvious thing
to do I have been reluctant to submit it fearing that I must have missed
some fundamental flaw in it or you guys would have implemented it that 
way a long time ago? (at least since Rusty rewrote the module
loader). Was I wrong*?

Greg, Rusty, what do you think?

/ Per Svennerbrandt

* I also actually had my kernel add MODALIAS to the hotplug enviroment
long before Roman submited his patch doing this, even calling it MODALIAS
from the very beginning! :) So obviously I've been wrong before...


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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-06 21:22 [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 002 release Greg KH
2005-05-08 22:52 ` Per Liden
2005-05-09 21:13   ` Per Svennerbrandt [this message]
2005-05-10 22:17     ` Per Liden
2005-05-10 22:41       ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 23:56         ` Per Liden
2005-05-11  1:22           ` Brian Gerst
2005-05-11  5:33           ` Greg KH
2005-05-18 23:00       ` Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-18 23:00       ` [PATCH][RFC] __request_module: fixed argument request_module with waitflag Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-18 23:01       ` [PATCH][RFC] request_modalias: MODALIAS based module loading Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-18 23:37         ` Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-10 22:41     ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 002 release Greg KH
2005-05-12 21:42     ` Greg KH
2005-05-13  8:19       ` Michael Tokarev
2005-05-13 16:02         ` Greg KH
2005-05-13 23:21       ` Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-14  5:59         ` Greg KH
2005-05-18  9:27     ` David Weinehall
2005-05-09 23:22   ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 21:51     ` Per Liden
2005-05-11  5:36       ` Greg KH
2005-05-09  3:57 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-09 23:21   ` Greg KH
2005-05-10  9:29     ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-10  9:43       ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 12:58         ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-05-10 17:24           ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 20:13             ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 20:28               ` Lee Revell
2005-05-10 20:59                 ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 21:02                   ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 20:31               ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 20:52                 ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 20:59                   ` Bill Nottingham
2005-05-10 21:08                   ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 21:22                     ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-10 23:55                       ` [PATCH] " Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-11  0:05                         ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-11  5:40                           ` Greg KH
2005-05-11  0:08                         ` [PATCH] " Rusty Russell
2005-05-11  1:11                           ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-11  3:39                             ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-11  9:59                               ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-11 10:52                                 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-11 10:58                                   ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-11 13:06                                     ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-12  4:39                                       ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-12  7:47                                         ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-11  0:01               ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-11  0:10                 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-11  1:09                   ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-11  7:31 ` Christian Zoz
2005-05-14 23:02 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-05-16 19:11   ` Greg KH
2005-05-16 21:24 ` Marco d'Itri
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2005-05-11  2:04                 ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>

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