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From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: udev 070 not create dvb device
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:48:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051027134852.GA26871@vrfy.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051015141800.26330.qmail@web34812.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 10:28:54AM +0600, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> Kay Sievers wrote:
> 
> >You may try something stupid like this:
> >
> > while [ $(cat /proc/*/status 2> /dev/null | grep -c -E '^Name:.udevd?$') 
> > -gt 1 ]; do
> >     sleep 0.1
> > done
> > 
> >
> 1) This can be simplified to:
> 
> while pidof udevd | grep -q " " ; do
>      sleep 0.1
> done

No, that will not catch the "udev" processes. We need to catch both,
cause only the "rules-in-daemon" patch forks "udevd" processes.

> 2) Greg KH said to stick with (synchronous) udevstart for now, and I 
> agree with him here. But there's your comment at 
> http://bugs.debian.org/329226
> 
> >That's one of the problems with a synchronous udevstart. It should go
> >away for a lot of other reasons too and I refused all the "coldplug"
> >patches for udevstart for that reason.
> > 
> >
> That seems to be in disagreement with Greg's words. Is that viewpoint 
> obsolete?

No, thats fine. It depends on how you set-up your booting and it's a safe way
to do it for now.

> Or are there still plans to drop synchronous udevstart

Sure, I'm currently working on a sysfs triggered, kernel based hotplug:
  http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/gregkh/patches.git;a=blob;hb=HEAD;f=driver/coldplug-emit-hotplug-events-from-sysfs.patch

> and make this "pidof" hack (or something equivalent) the official 
> recommended solution?

We'll see ...

Kay


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-10-27 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-15 14:18 udev 070 not create dvb device lukkinosat
2005-10-18  5:45 ` Greg KH
2005-10-19 11:19 ` lukkinosat
2005-10-19 13:18 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-10-22  6:58 ` lukkinosat
2005-10-22 13:28 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-10-23  7:01 ` lukkinosat
2005-10-23 20:34 ` Kay Sievers
2005-10-24  6:31 ` lukkinosat
2005-10-24 17:51 ` Kay Sievers
2005-10-26  2:44 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-10-26  6:45 ` Matthew Burgess
2005-10-26  7:46 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-10-26 11:35 ` lukkinosat
2005-10-26 12:32 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-10-26 15:07 ` Greg KH
2005-10-26 15:52 ` Greg KH
2005-10-26 18:25 ` Kay Sievers
2005-10-27  2:53 ` Olivier Blin
2005-10-27  4:28 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-10-27 13:48 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2005-10-27 14:48 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-10-27 15:21 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-10-27 15:50 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-10-27 15:51 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-10-27 16:24 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-10-28  1:43 ` Kay Sievers

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