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From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: waiting for an unknown set of udev /dev entries to complete
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 23:13:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051122231306.GA21094@vrfy.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051118223045.GA28401@us.ibm.com>

On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 01:01:54AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Nov 21, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> wrote:
> 
> > > I still see a problem with this design: there is a period (which may be
> > > easy to hit if the udevd is spawning the maximum allowed number of
> > > children), between when events are sent to udevd and when it starts
> > > processing them, when the on-disk queue is empty.
> > It's the received event queue, which is exported, not the processes
> > currently running. What problem do you see related to the maximum number
> > of childs?
> Nevermind, this makes the race much shorter but it's still there.
> 
> > There is still a small theorethical window between the module load
> > and the first event for a device created by that module, but it's unlikely
> > to hit that and it should be easy to work around that, if necessary.
> Yes, this is what I meant (in the context of boot-time events synthesis)
> and I do not like taking this risk.

Scott sent a nice patch to remove the /dev/.udev.queue directory if it's
empty. That makes it pretty easy to work around this:
  start udevd
  mkdir -p /dev/.udev/queue
  trigger uevent's in /sys
  while test -d /dev/.udev/queue; do sleep 0.1; done

The last event will just rmdir() the created queue directory.

Kay


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-22 23:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-18 22:30 waiting for an unknown set of udev /dev entries to complete Patrick Mansfield
2005-11-20  6:03 ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-20 17:25 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-11-20 18:23 ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-20 20:10 ` Pozsar Balazs
2005-11-20 20:23 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-11-20 23:32 ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-20 23:53 ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-21  0:01 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-11-22 23:13 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2005-11-23  8:26 ` Scott James Remnant
2005-11-23 10:54 ` Pozsar Balazs
2005-11-23 16:27 ` Harald Hoyer
2005-11-23 16:50 ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-23 17:25 ` Pozsar Balazs
2005-11-23 17:46 ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-23 18:16 ` Pozsar Balazs
2005-11-23 18:39 ` Kay Sievers
2005-11-23 21:33 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-11-28 22:09 ` Pozsar Balazs
2005-11-29 10:44 ` Kay Sievers

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