Re: Trying to compile udev + libsysfs

[Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>]

On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 09:56:30AM +0100, Wolfgang Klein wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Why do you want to upgrade udev?  It's such a low-level part of a Linux
> 
> Because without upgrading it I still would be stuck with kernel version
> 2.6.10 (or 11?) and without upgrading udev the SuSE system refused to
> run a newer kernel version. The "old" kernel version caused some trouble
> concerning my hardware, eg: suspending the system. And let's not forget
> security issues.
> 
> Upgrading to udev 058 I was finally able to use kernel 2.6.14 and now I
> want to use 2.6.15, but the changelog says that at least udev 071 will
> be needed for that.

Ok, that makes sense.  Problem is, it's hard to upgrade kernel versions
these days on distros that are not set up to handle it.  9.2 wasn't the
best example of a release that could handle updated kernels (to be fair,
that's what I use on one of my boxes, and I got it working, but it was
hard...)

> > Sorry to hear that.  But you might find that the 10.0 release is a lot
> > nicer in regards to udev usage, now that SuSE has a few of us working
> > for them :)
> 
> That's what I am hoping for. ;-)
> 
> Before I updated to SuSE 9.2 I was using 9.0 and I remember that this
> distri wouldn't even run a kernel newer than 2.6.4 or something. So I
> had no chance to use hardware features that require a recent kernel version.
> 
> I don't want to be forced to update my entire system any time I just
> want to install a new kernel version. That's why I am still looking for
> a distribution that will allow me to use it for more than a year and
> that will be useable with recent kernel version in the future as long as
> possible. Do you think SuSE 10 will be able to be such a system?

I don't know.  Some things are getting more and more tightly bound to
speific kernel versions in userspace, as we try to intergrate things
better (which makes users happier.)  In general, users do not ever
upgrade their kernels on their own, but rely on the disto to support
them.  This is the case for the SuSE 10.0 release, and almost all others
(fedora 3 and older, etc.)

But some distros are better able to accept updated kernels, although you
loose some intregration and increase the complexity of parts of the
system.  OpenSuSE, Fedora 4, Debian unstable, Gentoo, etc. are all
examples of distros that can handle updated kernels easier.

Also, you don't want to use udev at all, feel free to upgrade your
kernel, and switch back to a static /dev.

Hope this helps,

greg k-h


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