From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David =?utf-8?B?R8OzbWV6?= Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:03:17 +0000 Subject: Re: _id utilities Message-Id: <20060706190316.GA2647@fargo> List-Id: References: <20060619121157.GA23044@fargo> In-Reply-To: <20060619121157.GA23044@fargo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org Hi Kay, On Jun 19 at 02:29:06, Kay Sievers wrote:> > A couple of questions. Why are= n't "scsi_id", "cdrom_id", installed> > by default? If they're now the stan= dard utilities to manage persistent> > device naming they should be install= ed with 'make install'.> > Well it's Linux, there is no "standard". :) It's= up to the distro's to> decide what to put in here. There are also no "stan= dard" rules installed> by udev until now. Yes, i think that to no install any rules is logical, it's up toeach distro= to choose what rules to install. But, are there alternativesapproaches in = distributions to do persistent naming? If not, i finda sane default to inst= all *_id utilities. > > And, why is the default path to install them /lib/udev? It's also> > ha= rcoded in the source and it doesn't look good. It'd be better to> > install= them in /sbin> > All tools can be called by just using their name: RUN=3D"= firmware.sh", if> they are in /lib/udev. Yes, but because "/lib/udev" is hardcoded in the sources, which isquite ugl= y ;). > The tools are not really useful outside of udev> and intentionally don't = show up on shell autocompletion (scsi_id has a> symlink to /sbin for backwa= rds compatibility).> > In general the udev tools will not give you any info= rmation which is not> already available in /dev/disk/by-*/, so there is no = real need to make> them public in /sbin and get the pain of keeping the int= erfaces stable. "/lib", according to the FHS standard, is for "essential sharedlibraries an= d kernel modules". IMHO to hide binaries in /libstandard directories is not= good, they should be in sbin. regards, -- David G=C3=B3mez Jabber ID: davidge= @jabber.org Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Ge= t stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier= Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimoh= ttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642____= ___________________________________________Linux-hotplug-devel mailing list= http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.netLinux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge= .nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-hotplug-devel