From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:15:01 +0000 Subject: Re: Moving Ubuntu to upstream udev rules (Part 2) Message-Id: <20081222161501.GA31319@bongo.bofh.it> List-Id: References: <1229955629.6944.63.camel@quest> In-Reply-To: <1229955629.6944.63.camel@quest> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org On Dec 22, Kay Sievers wrote: > > - KERNEL="tun", NAME="net/%k", MODE="0666", OPTIONS+="ignore_remove" > > + KERNEL="tun", NAME="net/%k" > > The mode seems rather permissive? Do you really allow any user to > > make tunnels by default? (Ours is 0600!) > Hmm, I don't know. I see Ubuntu users complaining on the net, who use > virtualization not running as root. But if it's unsafe we should > change that. It's safe with modern kernels, it should be 666 to not anger users. > > We have the nvram group, no idea why, we just do ;) > Hmm, if there is a good reason. Maybe just drop "nvram", and wait if > anybody complains? As I explained, it's a Debianism. > Putting gigabyte-big USB hard disks in the "floppy" group? Also some Yes, because "floopy" actually means "removable storage devices". > ATA/SCSI storage controller are marked as removable. I don't think we I like to call these "buggy". > If we can not agree on a default, we can do an option, but we do > nobody a favor who works on an upstream project and who needs to find > the differences again. So, I'm all for finding a common solution, For > me it would not be a problem to use "dialout" if that is what we want. > Harald? In Debian uucp and dialout are totally unrelated groups: the first one is used by the Taylor UUCP package for its own stuff, the second one means "member users can initiate a dialout connection using SLIP, PPP or a terminal program". I think some distributions overloaded the uucp group with both meanings. Debian cannot merge them. -- ciao, Marco