udev rules wont work

udev rules wont work

[eial]

hello.
I'm running gentoo with kernel tuxonice 2.6.29, hal 0.5.12_rc1, dbus 1.2.12, xorg-server 1.6.2 and udev 140.
I have these following three rules:
ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1"
ACTION="remove", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=0"
SUBSYSTEM="bluetooth", KERNEL="hci[0-9]*", RUN+="bluetooth.sh" 

but when I turn on the adapter, the modules won't load, when I plug the mouse, the touchpad is still working and when I unplug it, if it is off, it won't come back on.
I've tried to change the mouse line to these line:
ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="usb", ATTRS{product}="USB_PS2 Optical Mouse"  , RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1"
ACTION="remove", SUBSYSTEM="usb", ATTRS{product}="USB_PS2 Optical Mouse"  , RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=0"
but no luck, when I check /var/log/messages I see this:
Jul 20 19:05:12 NCC-5001-D udevadm[5426]: bind failed: Operation not permitted     
Jul 20 19:05:18 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: USB disconnect, address 6                       
Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7                                                                               
Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice           
Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D input: USB_PS2 Optical Mouse as /class/input/input19     
Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D generic-usb 0003:15CA:00C3.0008: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [USB_PS2 Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input0                             
Jul 20 19:05:58 NCC-5001-D udevadm[5556]: bind failed: Operation not permitted      .

Re: udev rules wont work

[eial]

On Tue 21 Jul 15:58 2009 eial@cs.bgu.ac.il wrote:
> 
> hello.
> I'm running gentoo with kernel tuxonice 2.6.29, hal 0.5.12_rc1, dbus 1.2.12, xorg-server 1.6.2 and udev 140.
> I have these following three rules:
> ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1"
> ACTION="remove", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=0"
> SUBSYSTEM="bluetooth", KERNEL="hci[0-9]*", RUN+="bluetooth.sh" 
> 
> but when I turn on the adapter, the modules won't load, when I plug the mouse, the touchpad is still working and when I unplug it, if it is off, it won't come back on.
> I've tried to change the mouse line to these line:
> ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="usb", ATTRS{product}="USB_PS2 Optical Mouse"  , RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1"
> ACTION="remove", SUBSYSTEM="usb", ATTRS{product}="USB_PS2 Optical Mouse"  , RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=0"
> but no luck, when I check /var/log/messages I see this:
> Jul 20 19:05:12 NCC-5001-D udevadm[5426]: bind failed: Operation not permitted     
> Jul 20 19:05:18 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: USB disconnect, address 6                       
> Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7                                                                               
> Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice           
> Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D input: USB_PS2 Optical Mouse as /class/input/input19     
> Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D generic-usb 0003:15CA:00C3.0008: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [USB_PS2 Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input0                             
> Jul 20 19:05:58 NCC-5001-D udevadm[5556]: bind failed: Operation not permitted      .
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my mail was cut short for some reason, here is what was cut:
Jul 20 19:10:37 NCC-5001-D udevadm[6232]: bind failed: Operation not permitted    
Jul 20 19:10:45 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: USB disconnect, address 7                      
Jul 20 19:10:57 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8          
                                                                 
Jul 20 19:10:57 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice          
Jul 20 19:10:57 NCC-5001-D input: USB_PS2 Optical Mouse as /class/input/input20    
Jul 20 19:10:57 NCC-5001-D generic-usb 0003:15CA:00C3.0009: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [USB_PS2
Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input0                            

Re: udev rules wont work

[eial]

On Tue 21 Jul 15:58 2009 eial@cs.bgu.ac.il wrote:
> 
> hello.
> I'm running gentoo with kernel tuxonice 2.6.29, hal 0.5.12_rc1, dbus 1.2.12, xorg-server 1.6.2 and udev 140.
> I have these following three rules:
> ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1"
> ACTION="remove", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=0"
> SUBSYSTEM="bluetooth", KERNEL="hci[0-9]*", RUN+="bluetooth.sh" 
> 
> but when I turn on the adapter, the modules won't load, when I plug the mouse, the touchpad is still working and when I unplug it, if it is off, it won't come back on.
> I've tried to change the mouse line to these line:
> ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="usb", ATTRS{product}="USB_PS2 Optical Mouse"  , RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1"
> ACTION="remove", SUBSYSTEM="usb", ATTRS{product}="USB_PS2 Optical Mouse"  , RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=0"
> but no luck, when I check /var/log/messages I see this:
> Jul 20 19:05:12 NCC-5001-D udevadm[5426]: bind failed: Operation not permitted     
> Jul 20 19:05:18 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: USB disconnect, address 6                       
> Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7                                                                               
> Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice           
> Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D input: USB_PS2 Optical Mouse as /class/input/input19     
> Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D generic-usb 0003:15CA:00C3.0008: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [USB_PS2 Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input0                             
> Jul 20 19:05:58 NCC-5001-D udevadm[5556]: bind failed: Operation not permitted      .
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my mail was cut short for some reason, here is what was cut:
Jul 20 19:10:37 NCC-5001-D udevadm[6232]: bind failed: Operation not permitted    
Jul 20 19:10:45 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: USB disconnect, address 7                      
Jul 20 19:10:57 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8          
                                                                 
Jul 20 19:10:57 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice          
Jul 20 19:10:57 NCC-5001-D input: USB_PS2 Optical Mouse as /class/input/input20    
Jul 20 19:10:57 NCC-5001-D generic-usb 0003:15CA:00C3.0009: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [USB_PS2
Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input0                            

Re: udev rules wont work

[eial]

On Tue 21 Jul 16:13 2009 eial@cs.bgu.ac.il wrote:
> 
> On Tue 21 Jul 15:58 2009 eial@cs.bgu.ac.il wrote:
> > 
> > hello.
> > I'm running gentoo with kernel tuxonice 2.6.29, hal 0.5.12_rc1, dbus 1.2.12, xorg-server 1.6.2 and udev 140.
> > I have these following three rules:
> > ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1"
> > ACTION="remove", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=0"
> > SUBSYSTEM="bluetooth", KERNEL="hci[0-9]*", RUN+="bluetooth.sh" 
> > 
> > but when I turn on the adapter, the modules won't load, when I plug the mouse, the touchpad is still working and when I unplug it, if it is off, it won't come back on.
> > I've tried to change the mouse line to these line:
> > ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="usb", ATTRS{product}="USB_PS2 Optical Mouse"  , RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1"
> > ACTION="remove", SUBSYSTEM="usb", ATTRS{product}="USB_PS2 Optical Mouse"  , RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=0"
> > but no luck, when I check /var/log/messages I see this:
> > Jul 20 19:05:12 NCC-5001-D udevadm[5426]: bind failed: Operation not permitted     
> > Jul 20 19:05:18 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: USB disconnect, address 6                       
> > Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7                                                                               
> > Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice           
> > Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D input: USB_PS2 Optical Mouse as /class/input/input19     
> > Jul 20 19:05:22 NCC-5001-D generic-usb 0003:15CA:00C3.0008: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [USB_PS2 Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input0                             
> > Jul 20 19:05:58 NCC-5001-D udevadm[5556]: bind failed: Operation not permitted      .
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> 
> my mail was cut short for some reason, here is what was cut:
> Jul 20 19:10:37 NCC-5001-D udevadm[6232]: bind failed: Operation not permitted    
> Jul 20 19:10:45 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: USB disconnect, address 7                      
> Jul 20 19:10:57 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8          
>                                                                  
> Jul 20 19:10:57 NCC-5001-D usb 6-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice          
> Jul 20 19:10:57 NCC-5001-D input: USB_PS2 Optical Mouse as /class/input/input20    
> Jul 20 19:10:57 NCC-5001-D generic-usb 0003:15CA:00C3.0009: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [USB_PS2
> Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input0                            
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I apologize for the flood, my university mail server has gone mad, here is the full log: http://pastebin.com/f77603288
these commands worked before, I have no idea why it won't work, I can really appreciate the help.
thanks in advance.

Re: udev rules wont work

[Matthias Schwarzott]

On Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009, eial@cs.bgu.ac.il wrote:
> hello.
> I'm running gentoo with kernel tuxonice 2.6.29, hal 0.5.12_rc1, dbus
> 1.2.12, xorg-server 1.6.2 and udev 140. I have these following three rules:
> ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse",
> RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1"
> ACTION="remove",  
> SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient
> TouchpadOff=0" SUBSYSTEM="bluetooth", KERNEL="hci[0-9]*",
> RUN+="bluetooth.sh" 
>

What is the name of the file these rules are in?
It must be lexically after the file setting ID_CLASS.
For remove event it is possible not all properties can be checked, but you may 
use REMOVE_CMD for it.
REMOVE_CMD is set in ACTION="add" to the value you want to pass to RUN in 
remove case.

If that does not help, please run "udevadmin monitor --udev --env" while 
plugging the mouse in and post the results.

Regards
Matthias

Re: udev rules wont work

[eial]

On Tue 21 Jul 16:17 2009 Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
> On Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009, eial@cs.bgu.ac.il wrote:
> > hello.
> > I'm running gentoo with kernel tuxonice 2.6.29, hal 0.5.12_rc1, dbus
> > 1.2.12, xorg-server 1.6.2 and udev 140. I have these following three rules:
> > ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse",
> > RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1"
> > ACTION="remove",  
> > SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient
> > TouchpadOff=0" SUBSYSTEM="bluetooth", KERNEL="hci[0-9]*",
> > RUN+="bluetooth.sh" 
> >
> 
> What is the name of the file these rules are in?
> It must be lexically after the file setting ID_CLASS.
> For remove event it is possible not all properties can be checked, but you may 
> use REMOVE_CMD for it.
> REMOVE_CMD is set in ACTION="add" to the value you want to pass to RUN in 
> remove case.
> 
> If that does not help, please run "udevadmin monitor --udev --env" while 
> plugging the mouse in and post the results.
> 
> Regards
> Matthias
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for some reason I can't seem to find the bluetooth file, I'll focus on the mouse, the file is /etc/udev/rules.d/01-touchpad.rules
lexically? 
not sure I've understood the REMOVE_CMD

here is the output:
ul 21 16:27:36 NCC-5001-D usb 6-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
Jul 21 16:27:36 NCC-5001-D usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Jul 21 16:27:36 NCC-5001-D input: USB_PS2 Optical Mouse as /class/input/input17
Jul 21 16:27:36 NCC-5001-D generic-usb 0003:15CA:00C3.0006: input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [USB_PS2 Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2/input0

Re: udev rules wont work

[Matthias Schwarzott]

On Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009, eial@cs.bgu.ac.il wrote:
> On Tue 21 Jul 16:17 2009 Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
> > On Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009, eial@cs.bgu.ac.il wrote:
> > > hello.
> > > I'm running gentoo with kernel tuxonice 2.6.29, hal 0.5.12_rc1, dbus
> > > 1.2.12, xorg-server 1.6.2 and udev 140. I have these following three
> > > rules: ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse",
> > > RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1"
> > > ACTION="remove",
> > > SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient
> > > TouchpadOff=0" SUBSYSTEM="bluetooth", KERNEL="hci[0-9]*",
> > > RUN+="bluetooth.sh"
> >
> > What is the name of the file these rules are in?
> > It must be lexically after the file setting ID_CLASS.
> > For remove event it is possible not all properties can be checked, but
> > you may use REMOVE_CMD for it.
> > REMOVE_CMD is set in ACTION="add" to the value you want to pass to RUN
> > in remove case.
> >
> > If that does not help, please run "udevadmin monitor --udev --env" while
> > plugging the mouse in and post the results.
> >
> > Regards
> > Matthias
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>
> for some reason I can't seem to find the bluetooth file, I'll focus on the
> mouse, the file is /etc/udev/rules.d/01-touchpad.rules lexically?

The rule files are sorted in alphabetic order.
So the file where ID_CLASS is set must be before your own file, and it is set 
in 60-persistent-input.rules
So when your rules are executed ID_CLASS simply is not yet set and they can 
never match.

Why do you write your own bluetooth rules? net-wireless/bluez already provides 
the rule you quoted above.

> not sure I've understood the REMOVE_CMD
If you have a rule to match on remove and the properties you want to test are 
not available at that point the rule need to match on add. The match is then 
stored into udev database to know what to do on remove.

ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", \
  RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1", \
  ENV{REMOVE_CMD}="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=0"

>
> here is the output:
> ul 21 16:27:36 NCC-5001-D usb 6-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd
> and address 7 Jul 21 16:27:36 NCC-5001-D usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen
> from 1 choice Jul 21 16:27:36 NCC-5001-D input: USB_PS2 Optical Mouse as
at least this is not the output of udevadmin monitor, looks more like dmesg.

Regards
Matthias

Re: udev rules wont work

[eial]

On Tue 21 Jul 16:43 2009 Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
> On Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009, eial@cs.bgu.ac.il wrote:
> > On Tue 21 Jul 16:17 2009 Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
> > > On Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009, eial@cs.bgu.ac.il wrote:
> > > > hello.
> > > > I'm running gentoo with kernel tuxonice 2.6.29, hal 0.5.12_rc1, dbus
> > > > 1.2.12, xorg-server 1.6.2 and udev 140. I have these following three
> > > > rules: ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse",
> > > > RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1"
> > > > ACTION="remove",
> > > > SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient
> > > > TouchpadOff=0" SUBSYSTEM="bluetooth", KERNEL="hci[0-9]*",
> > > > RUN+="bluetooth.sh"
> > >
> > > What is the name of the file these rules are in?
> > > It must be lexically after the file setting ID_CLASS.
> > > For remove event it is possible not all properties can be checked, but
> > > you may use REMOVE_CMD for it.
> > > REMOVE_CMD is set in ACTION="add" to the value you want to pass to RUN
> > > in remove case.
> > >
> > > If that does not help, please run "udevadmin monitor --udev --env" while
> > > plugging the mouse in and post the results.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Matthias
> > > --
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> >
> > for some reason I can't seem to find the bluetooth file, I'll focus on the
> > mouse, the file is /etc/udev/rules.d/01-touchpad.rules lexically?
> 

ok, 01 is before 60 so I need to call it 61-touchpad.rules?

> The rule files are sorted in alphabetic order.
> So the file where ID_CLASS is set must be before your own file, and it is set 
> in 60-persistent-input.rules
> So when your rules are executed ID_CLASS simply is not yet set and they can 
> never match.
> 
> Why do you write your own bluetooth rules? net-wireless/bluez already provides 
> the rule you quoted above.
> 

well, that script was there in my distribution, what I want to do is the following, when I run on the bt+wireless adapter on, udev will load the bt and wl modules and run the kbluetooth program, and when I turn in off, it will kill the program and remove them from the memory

> > not sure I've understood the REMOVE_CMD

thanks for the tip.

> If you have a rule to match on remove and the properties you want to test are 
> not available at that point the rule need to match on add. The match is then 
> stored into udev database to know what to do on remove.
> 
> ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", \
>   RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1", \
>   ENV{REMOVE_CMD}="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=0"
> 

will try it, 

> >
> > here is the output:
> > ul 21 16:27:36 NCC-5001-D usb 6-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd
> > and address 7 Jul 21 16:27:36 NCC-5001-D usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen
> > from 1 choice Jul 21 16:27:36 NCC-5001-D input: USB_PS2 Optical Mouse as
> at least this is not the output of udevadmin monitor, looks more like dmesg.
> 
> Regards
> Matthias
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Re: udev rules wont work

[eial]

On Tue 21 Jul 16:59 2009 eial@cs.bgu.ac.il wrote:
> 
> On Tue 21 Jul 16:43 2009 Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
> > On Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009, eial@cs.bgu.ac.il wrote:
> > > On Tue 21 Jul 16:17 2009 Matthias Schwarzott wrote:
> > > > On Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009, eial@cs.bgu.ac.il wrote:
> > > > > hello.
> > > > > I'm running gentoo with kernel tuxonice 2.6.29, hal 0.5.12_rc1, dbus
> > > > > 1.2.12, xorg-server 1.6.2 and udev 140. I have these following three
> > > > > rules: ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse",
> > > > > RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1"
> > > > > ACTION="remove",
> > > > > SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient
> > > > > TouchpadOff=0" SUBSYSTEM="bluetooth", KERNEL="hci[0-9]*",
> > > > > RUN+="bluetooth.sh"
> > > >
> > > > What is the name of the file these rules are in?
> > > > It must be lexically after the file setting ID_CLASS.
> > > > For remove event it is possible not all properties can be checked, but
> > > > you may use REMOVE_CMD for it.
> > > > REMOVE_CMD is set in ACTION="add" to the value you want to pass to RUN
> > > > in remove case.
> > > >
> > > > If that does not help, please run "udevadmin monitor --udev --env" while
> > > > plugging the mouse in and post the results.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Matthias
> > > > --
> > > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-hotplug"
> > > > in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
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> > >
> > > for some reason I can't seem to find the bluetooth file, I'll focus on the
> > > mouse, the file is /etc/udev/rules.d/01-touchpad.rules lexically?
> > 
> 
> ok, 01 is before 60 so I need to call it 61-touchpad.rules?
> 
> > The rule files are sorted in alphabetic order.
> > So the file where ID_CLASS is set must be before your own file, and it is set 
> > in 60-persistent-input.rules
> > So when your rules are executed ID_CLASS simply is not yet set and they can 
> > never match.
> > 
> > Why do you write your own bluetooth rules? net-wireless/bluez already provides 
> > the rule you quoted above.
> > 
> 
> well, that script was there in my distribution, what I want to do is the following, when I run on the bt+wireless adapter on, udev will load the bt and wl modules and run the kbluetooth program, and when I turn in off, it will kill the program and remove them from the memory
> 
> > > not sure I've understood the REMOVE_CMD
> 
> thanks for the tip.
> 
> > If you have a rule to match on remove and the properties you want to test are 
> > not available at that point the rule need to match on add. The match is then 
> > stored into udev database to know what to do on remove.
> > 
> > ACTION="add", SUBSYSTEM="input", ENV{ID_CLASS}="mouse", \
> >   RUN+="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=1", \
> >   ENV{REMOVE_CMD}="/usr/bin/synclient TouchpadOff=0"
> > 
> 
> will try it, 
> 
> > >
> > > here is the output:
> > > ul 21 16:27:36 NCC-5001-D usb 6-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd
> > > and address 7 Jul 21 16:27:36 NCC-5001-D usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen
> > > from 1 choice Jul 21 16:27:36 NCC-5001-D input: USB_PS2 Optical Mouse as
> > at least this is not the output of udevadmin monitor, looks more like dmesg.
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> > Regards
> > Matthias
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any hints on the issue?