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From: Matt Domsch <matt_domsch@dell.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Cc: Narendra K <Narendra_K@dell.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org,
	jordan_hargrave@dell.com
Subject: Re: PATCH: Network Device Naming mechanism and policy
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:25:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091009162550.GB20855@mock.linuxdev.us.dell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091009091247.0a9b60cb@nehalam>

On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 09:12:47AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:04:43 -0500
> Narendra K <Narendra_K@dell.com> wrote:
> 
> > By creating character devices for every network device, we can use
> > udev to maintain alternate naming policies for devices, including
> > additional names for the same device, without interfering with the
> > name that the kernel assigns a device.
> > 
> What happens if interface is renamed by either networking API:
>   ip li set dev eth0 name eth-renamed-by-me

udev sees a KOBJ_MOVE uevent.  Today it does not handle these events
at all, but talking with Kay, he believes udev can be extended to
handle that pretty easily.


> or via
>    mv /dev/net/eth0 /dev/net/eth-renamed-by-user

There is no VFS magic today such that this 'mv' will translate into a
device_rename() function inside the kernel.

udev "owns" the /dev/netdev/eth0 device node name.  If a user (root)
does a 'mv', the symlink referants will be broken.  This is no
different than doing so for a disk device or any other udev-managed
device node.  If someone does a
  mv /dev/sda /dev/sda-mybootdisk
and is relying on the /dev/disk/by-label/mybootdisk -> /dev/sda
symlink in some way, the application will fail.

> or if both are done at same time (what is locking model?)

There is no locking model.  udev will serialize the rename events
though, as seen in userspace.

Thanks,
Matt

-- 
Matt Domsch
Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO
linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-09 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <EDA0A4495861324DA2618B4C45DCB3EE5894F6@blrx3m08.blr.amer.dell.com>
2009-10-09 16:04 ` PATCH: Network Device Naming mechanism and policy Narendra K
2009-10-09 16:12   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-10-09 16:25     ` Matt Domsch [this message]
     [not found] <EDA0A4495861324DA2618B4C45DCB3EE58964E@blrx3m08.blr.amer.dell.com>
2009-10-28 13:06 ` Narendra K
     [not found] <EDA0A4495861324DA2618B4C45DCB3EE589541@blrx3m08.blr.amer.dell.com>
2009-10-12 18:47 ` Narendra K
2009-10-12 19:09   ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 19:41     ` Karl O. Pinc
2009-10-13 18:17       ` Dan Williams
2009-10-13 18:56         ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-12 19:48     ` Matt Domsch
     [not found] <EDA0A4495861324DA2618B4C45DCB3EE58953F@blrx3m08.blr.amer.dell.com>
2009-10-12 18:07 ` Narendra K
     [not found] <EDA0A4495861324DA2618B4C45DCB3EE5894ED@blrx3m08.blr.amer.dell.com>
2009-10-09 14:00 ` Narendra K
2009-10-09 14:51   ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-09 16:23     ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-09 16:56       ` Marco d'Itri
2009-10-12 10:41     ` Scott James Remnant
2009-10-12 11:31       ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-12 17:37       ` Bill Nottingham
2009-10-13 18:06         ` Dan Williams
2009-10-13 18:53           ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-13 19:53             ` John W. Linville
2009-10-09 16:36   ` Greg KH
2009-10-09 17:17     ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-09 17:22       ` Greg KH
2009-10-09 21:09   ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-10  2:44     ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-10-10  4:40       ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-10  5:23         ` Greg KH
2009-10-10  8:29           ` Sujit K M
2009-10-10 16:27             ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 19:00               ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-10 21:10                 ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 12:47           ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-10 16:25             ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 17:34               ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-10 21:13                 ` Greg KH
2009-10-12  6:21                   ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-12 16:19                     ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-11 16:40               ` David Zeuthen
2009-10-11 18:47                 ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 18:11           ` Bill Fink
2009-10-10 18:35             ` Kay Sievers
2009-10-11 21:10           ` Rob Townley
2009-10-11 23:04             ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-12  3:00             ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 18:35               ` Rob Townley
2009-10-12 18:44                 ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-12 17:45           ` Bill Nottingham
2009-10-12 17:55             ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 18:07               ` Bill Nottingham
2009-10-12 18:15                 ` Greg KH
2009-10-10 18:32         ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-10-10 21:06           ` Greg KH
2009-10-13 18:02             ` Dan Williams
2009-10-13 18:56               ` Narendra_K
2009-10-12  7:30           ` Kurt Van Dijck
2009-10-11  0:37         ` Marco d'Itri
2009-10-13 15:08   ` dann frazier
2009-10-13 17:25     ` Narendra_K
2009-10-13 17:36       ` dann frazier
2009-10-16  0:32         ` dann frazier
2009-10-16 14:14           ` Narendra_K
2009-10-16 15:20             ` dann frazier
2009-10-16 15:33               ` Ben Hutchings
2009-10-16 15:41                 ` dann frazier
2009-10-16 21:40                 ` dann frazier
2009-10-19 11:42                   ` Narendra_K
2009-10-19 16:14                     ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-11-04 14:35                       ` Narendra_K
2009-11-06  8:49                         ` Marco d'Itri
2009-11-06 22:06                           ` Matt Domsch
2009-11-06 22:35                             ` Marco d'Itri
2009-11-06 23:17                               ` dann frazier
2009-11-09 14:53                               ` Narendra_K
2009-11-10 17:23                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-11-11  6:43                                   ` Narendra_K
2009-11-06 22:05                         ` Domsch, Matt
2009-10-13 19:51       ` Greg KH
2009-10-13 20:00         ` Jordan_Hargrave
2009-10-13 20:19           ` Greg KH
2009-10-13 22:05             ` Matt Domsch
2009-10-13 22:08             ` dann frazier
     [not found] <5DDAB7BA7BDB58439DD0EED0B8E9A3AE011CD92D@ausx3mpc102.aus.amer.dell.com>
2009-08-19 18:56 ` Jordan_Hargrave
2009-08-19 19:26   ` Ben Hutchings
2009-08-19 19:40     ` Jordan_Hargrave
2009-08-20  4:41   ` Bryan Kadzban
2009-10-12 17:54   ` Marco d'Itri

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