Re: kernel.org udev tarballs

[Michael Olbrich <m.olbrich@pengutronix.de>]

On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 05:09:32AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 11:00:40AM +0100, Michael Olbrich wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 03:46:26PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote:
> > > 2011/11/2 Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 03:05:52PM +0100, Benoît THÉBAUDEAU wrote:
> > > >> Does anyone know if the udev tarballs will be put back on
> > > >> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev/
> > > 
> > > The current release is just here:
> > >   http://people.freedesktop.org/~kay/
> > > 
> > > >> or should we rely only on git snapshots from now on?
> > > 
> > > You can always just check out a git tag and do:
> > >   ./autogen
> > >   make
> > >   make distcheck
> > > to get any tarball you need.
> > > 
> > > > They will be put back there, please give us time.
> > > 
> > > Not sure if all the old release tarballs will ever come back to kernel
> > > org. Git is the better archive for that anyway.
> > > 
> > > The new releases will be there for sure when the infrastructure is
> > > ready. In the meantime, you can just get old releases from any of the
> > > distros archives who stored them in their build systems with proper
> > > checksums.
> > 
> > That really depends on the use-case. All embedded Linux distributions that
> > I know of rely on upstream to provide the tarballs.
> 
> Why do they do this?  If they are expecting that upstream's tarballs
> will always be there to abide by the GPL, then they might wish to
> reconsider that :)

There are no binaries here. It's just rules how to build things. With
downloading the tarball as a first step.

> > And the big distributions only keep the versions they actually use and that
> > changes all the time.
> > So please upload the old tarballs again, once the infrastructure is ready.
> 
> You can always create the old tarball yourself automatically from git if
> needed.

Really? Different versions for autoconf/automake/libtool etc. introduce an
amount of uncertainty I'm not really comfortable with.

Michael

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