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From: "Bryan W. Headley" <bwheadley@earthlink.net>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Hotplug-- who notifies whom of what?
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 00:54:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40316638.9060501@earthlink.net> (raw)

Greg,

Regards to Aiptek USB tablets...

I'm trying to figure out a strategy for hotplugging.

1) The tablet is mapped to the input device system.
    a) Because the order in which drivers complete loading/registering
       is not deterministic (e.g., mouse driver spawns thread), I do not
       know with certainty that the tablet will always be mapped to
       /dev/input/event27. So, configuration files of certain (XFree)
       applications that require that the path be known and static enough
       to put in a text file.
    b) No problem. So I whip up a startup process that finds the tablet
       and creates a softlink that XF86Config-4 can refer to. That is
       relying on the sysvinit system, and is wrong insofar as it knows
       there's a tablet owned by the user (I'm thinking of RH, Mandrake,
       et al, quality scripts, here. Not little one-liners we all write.)

2) In case of a hotplug event, e.g., the tablet being disconnected, I
    really should get rid of the softlink...
    a) But is that the domain of a script in hotplug?

3) In case of hotplug-connect, I should re-create the softlink.
    a) Again, in the hotplug domain? I ask because I have an rc script
       that does the same thing on boot-up, and I'd rather not have
       things cross-referenced between two packages.
    b) Plus, what I do to find the aiptek tablet COULD BE scriptable on
       2.6, would be hard to script on 2.4. Anyway, it's not a script
       now, it makes ioctl calls.

4) Moving upstream... X needs to be notified that device 'x', that it's
    using for input, has been plugged/unplugged. No facility for that,
    except in my xf86aiptek device driver for X, which DOES have a
    bidirectional communications channel, which could have a "Unwind
    driver" API call
    a) Right now, the only thing that knows my API is my user-friendly
       front-end. It's not something you'd run as a daemon...
    b) But a subset of it certainly could. Question is, what does it
       listen for? Hotplug messages forwarded off of dbus? Does it
       monitor Hal? Is it really something that's fired off directly
       by hotplug? Or owned by hotplug?

5) Does udev fit into this conversation anywhere? It can be hotplug,
    dbus, or hal-aware, or do it's thing by itself...

Since I don't know, but plan to read up on the this stuff, I just wanted
to ask your opinions up-front. Certainly, there's a question as to 
whether hotplug wants to require the successful installation of hal, 
dbus. Or for that matter, adjuncts like discover, kudzu...

It's a two-pronged question: what to do now, and what directions to plan 
for the community to move towards.

-- 
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Bryan W. Headley - bwheadley@earthlink.net



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             reply	other threads:[~2004-02-17  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-17  0:54 Bryan W. Headley [this message]
2004-02-17  1:39 ` Hotplug-- who notifies whom of what? Greg KH
2004-02-17 17:28 ` Greg KH

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