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From: rihad <rihad@mail.ru>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: linux-kernel-digest@lists.us.dell.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] udev 021 release
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 10:16:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <404D9966.6080903@mail.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040309081948.GI22057@kroah.com>

Greg KH wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 11:29:07PM +0400, rihad wrote:
> 
>>Date: 	Wed, 3 Mar 2004 07:14:33 -0800
>>From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
>>
>>>Users need to learn that the kernel is changing models from one which
>>>automatically loaded modules when userspace tried to access the device,
>>>to one where the proper modules are loaded when the hardware is found.
>>
>>Does this mean that I will have modules for all my hardware hanging 
>>around even if I'm not, say, using cdrom at the moment?
> 
> 
> Yup, why not?
> 

I suspect there's nothing wrong with that under many common scenarios 
(apart from the one thing I seem to dislike so much that if a cdrom 
isn't being used, no driver for it should be loaded). But it does impose 
certain amount of strict policy that Unix (and Linux more so) has long 
been doing a great job of avoiding.

> 
>>And does it mean that if I rmmod -a the unused cdrom module and later
>>try to mount /cdrom, the correct module won't be magically insmod'ed?
> 
> 
> If you don't have the /dev entry there, how would anything know to load
> the module?
> 

Does the devfs/udev /dev entry get removed when doing rmmod? I though 
not. But since the module isn't there anymore, doing mount /dev/cdrom 
/cdrom would give "No such device". Not a problem per se, but then 
probably rmmod -a isn't as a wise thing to do with udev as it is with 
devfs. Bad.


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  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-09 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20040303153403.21649.81059.Mailman@linux.us.dell.com>
     [not found] ` <4048D503.10808@mail.ru>
2004-03-09  8:19   ` [ANNOUNCE] udev 021 release Greg KH
2004-03-09 10:16     ` rihad [this message]
2004-03-09 13:43       ` Alex Goddard
2004-03-10 22:52       ` Greg KH
     [not found] <fa.fkf6pbs.vk4328@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.aj3o3v7.pgqn9l@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <404F9E5F.2010001@myrealbox.com>
2004-03-11  0:11     ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
     [not found] <fa.dbn18ei.1k46o3i@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.afjk56q.t0ulic@ifi.uio.no>
2004-03-10 13:02   ` walt
2004-03-10 21:01     ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-03-03  0:09 Greg KH
2004-03-03  0:25 ` Greg KH
2004-03-03  1:16 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-03  3:09 ` Greg KH
2004-03-03  9:56 ` Michael Weiser
2004-03-03 12:22   ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-03-03 15:14     ` Greg KH
2004-03-03 19:28       ` David Brownell
2004-03-03 22:53       ` Michael Weiser
2004-03-04  1:25         ` Greg KH
2004-03-04  3:58           ` Bill Nottingham
2004-03-04 18:26             ` Greg KH
2004-03-04  1:22       ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-04  1:28         ` Greg KH
2004-03-04  9:27           ` Michael Weiser
2004-03-03 15:15   ` Greg KH
2004-03-03 23:56     ` Michael Weiser
2004-03-04  1:19       ` Greg KH
2004-03-03 10:19 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-03 10:52 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-03-03 11:02 ` Marco d'Itri
2004-03-03 15:49 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-03-04  1:18 ` Marco d'Itri
     [not found] ` <4046CE91.50701@kubla.de>
2004-03-04 18:44   ` Greg KH
     [not found]     ` <40482ACC.3070504@kubla.de>
2004-03-10 22:53       ` Greg KH
     [not found] ` <1078422507.3614.20.camel@nosferatu.lan>
2004-03-04 18:46   ` Greg KH
2004-03-09 11:51 ` "Andrey Borzenkov" 
2004-03-10  2:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-03-10 12:29 ` "Andrey Borzenkov" 
2004-03-10 12:56 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-03-10 22:51   ` Greg KH
2004-03-10 23:17     ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-03-11  1:21       ` Greg KH
2004-03-13  9:34         ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-03-11  3:30 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-03-11  9:22 ` "Andrey Borzenkov" 
2004-03-12 23:39 ` Greg KH

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