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From: Todd Poynor <tpoynor@mvista.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Patrick Mochel <mochel@digitalimplant.org>,
	linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Hotplug for device power state changes
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 19:07:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4092A3DA.4040908@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1083286226.20473.159.camel@gaston>

Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:

>>Now that you mention it, device power hotplug should be synchronous, to 
>>make sure the power management application has reacted to the changed 
>>state prior to the device going into actual service (in the case of a 
>>resume).
> 
> 
> This is dangerous.
> 
> If the device you are suspending is on the VM path in any way,
> beeing synchronous with a userland call can deadlock you solid.
> 
> This is even more true for system suspend where we are suspending
> all devices including the main swap/storage.

Well, this feature is intended to allow power management of appropriate 
devices; using sysfs or a driver call to individually suspend a device 
required for proper system operation would be a danger, hotplug 
notification or no.  And the individual device notifications provided by 
the patch under discussion are not for use during a system-wide 
suspend/resume sequence.  I would imagine system suspend/resume would be 
separate events that probably would not notify of the individual device 
suspends/resumes performed as a consequence.  At any rate, yes, this 
would occur outside of the code path that freezes processes and such.

-- 
Todd Poynor
MontaVista Software



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-04-30 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20040429202654.GA9971@dhcp193.mvista.com>
2004-04-29 21:42 ` [PATCH] Hotplug for device power state changes Russell King
2004-04-29 22:36   ` Todd Poynor
2004-04-30  0:50     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-30  8:30       ` Russell King
2004-04-30 19:59         ` Todd Poynor
2004-04-30 21:56           ` Greg KH
2004-05-01  1:16             ` Todd Poynor
2004-05-01  1:48               ` Greg KH
2004-05-03 21:33                 ` Todd Poynor
2004-05-01  0:03           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-05-03 22:04             ` Todd Poynor
2004-04-30 19:07       ` Todd Poynor [this message]
2004-05-15  1:40   ` Nicolas Pitre
2004-05-15 23:34     ` Pavel Machek
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.50.0405040819490.3562-100000@monsoon.he.net>
2004-05-04 20:36   ` Todd Poynor
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.50.0405042110440.30304-100000@monsoon.he.net>
2004-05-06  1:08       ` Todd Poynor
2004-05-14  2:50         ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-15  2:08           ` Todd Poynor

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