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From: Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: initramfs: udev, hotplug, klibc and modprobe
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:42:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41E4F11E.5030309@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1105307950.9630.49.camel@juerg-p4.bitron.ch>

Kay Sievers wrote:
>>              * [3] Patch to add udevinitd and udevinitsend. These are
>>                modified versions of udevd and udevsend acting as a
>>                "caching daemon". They save events received during early
>>                userspace and resend them to late userspace udevd when
>>                ready. This enables late userspace to process all events
>>                (for example to load modules not included in initramfs)
>>                without using coldplugging and thelike. (udevinitsend
>>                gets called via hotplug.d)
> 
> 
> Nice idea. In a recent discussion, the question came up about a possible
> combination of udevstart and coldplugging. It may be possible to
> synthesize all the events from the information in sysfs? What do you
> think about that in relation to your udevd "event queue".

I really would like to see the hotplay replay since September :)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id\x133841#c6

Basic problem for Fedora Core:
1. initramfs:
- modules have to be loaded, devices have to be created with udev
- the linuxrc does not know, when the devices are created, so it just calls
   udevstart several times after module loading (workaround)
- hotplug events are not processed completly, because "/" is not mounted yet

2. SysVinit:
- important hotplug events are missing, after "/" is mounted rw (e.g. loading
  of scsi modules after the scsi-adapter module was loaded in initramfs)


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-01-12  9:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-09 21:59 initramfs: udev, hotplug, klibc and modprobe Jürg Billeter
2005-01-09 22:25 ` Juerg Billeter
2005-01-12  2:37 ` Kay Sievers
2005-01-12  5:07 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-01-12  7:58 ` Jürg Billeter
2005-01-12  8:24 ` Jürg Billeter
2005-01-12  9:42 ` Harald Hoyer [this message]
2005-01-12  9:59 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-01-13  1:08 ` Kay Sievers
2005-01-13  3:50 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-01-13 12:55 ` Kay Sievers
2005-01-13 14:34 ` Juerg Billeter
2005-01-13 15:21 ` Kay Sievers
2005-01-13 16:16 ` Juerg Billeter
2005-01-14  9:29 ` Hannes Reinecke
2005-01-14 10:04 ` Kay Sievers
2005-01-14 10:27 ` Hannes Reinecke
2005-01-14 10:36 ` Kay Sievers

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