From: Harald Dunkel <harald.dunkel@t-online.de>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
Cc: linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 05:39:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42118B19.8000106@t-online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050214223613.GB13110@suse.de>
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Greg KH wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 09:30:54AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote:
>
>>
>>If it is not possible to use klibc together with a non-Linux
>>system (e.g. FreeBSD or Mach), then I would suggest to make
>>klibc an optional kernel patch and drop it from udev and
>>hotplug.
>
>
> But it is not possible to use udev or hotplug-ng on a non-Linux system,
> right?
>
Thats not the point. The point is to remove the copy of the
klibc sources from packages like udev and hotplug-ng and
to use the existing klibc sources or binaries on the target
system instead. Just to keep it modular.
> As far as "optional kernel patch"? What do you mean? People are
> working on adding klibc to the main kernel tree, nothing optional about
> that.
>
I do not know the internals of klibc that much. Is it possible
to use klibc on non-Linux systems, e.g. on Mach or FreeBSD?
Maybe by adding some #ifdefs to klibc's kernel interface?
If yes, then making klibc an integrated part of the Linux
kernel source tree and dropping the independent development
tree would be a restriction to the use of klibc.
AFAIK the plan for initramfs is to move as much functionality
as possible from kernel to user space. Why not do the same
thing for the sources? Everything that is supposed to be run
in user space could be removed from the kernel source tree
and managed seperately, either in a set of userspace modules
like klibc, hotplug, udev, initramfs, etc., or in a monolithic
"userspace-tools" source tree.
Surely klibc belongs to the user space.
Regards
Harri
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Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-11 0:40 [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Greg KH
2005-02-11 0:52 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 1:30 ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11 6:41 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 11:47 ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11 17:06 ` Greg KH
2005-02-12 0:02 ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-02-11 1:07 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-02-11 1:16 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:40 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-14 4:06 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-14 8:32 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14 8:51 ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-02-14 23:04 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-14 23:16 ` Greg KH
2005-02-14 23:28 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 15:15 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-02-15 20:12 ` kernel
2005-02-14 23:21 ` Roland Dreier
2005-02-14 23:45 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Lee Revell
2005-02-15 0:16 ` Tim Bird
2005-02-15 1:17 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 1:45 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Kyle Moffett
2005-02-15 7:32 ` Gábor Lénárt
2005-02-15 8:34 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-15 9:27 ` [OT] speeding boot process Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15 8:55 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Helge Hafting
2005-02-15 9:33 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15 13:20 ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-15 13:28 ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-15 13:50 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-15 3:38 ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-15 5:52 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-15 6:15 ` Jim Crilly
2005-02-15 6:39 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-15 19:32 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-17 18:37 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) jlnance
2005-02-17 19:18 ` Chris Larson
2005-02-19 5:53 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-17 19:58 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Helge Hafting
2005-02-19 5:56 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-19 22:47 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Helge Hafting
2005-02-20 2:09 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 Jim Crilly
2005-02-15 8:33 ` [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release) Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14 23:43 ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 19:51 ` Lee Revell
2005-02-15 21:02 ` Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 21:32 ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-15 21:09 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-15 19:56 ` Optimizing disk-I/O [was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release] Linas Vepstas
2005-02-15 20:46 ` Adam Goode
2005-02-15 21:11 ` Diego Calleja
2005-02-15 21:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-11 3:18 ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release Bill Nottingham
2005-02-11 6:46 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 16:19 ` Christian Bornträger
2005-02-11 17:01 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:01 ` Erik Andersen
2005-02-11 19:23 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:37 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 21:49 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:06 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 22:13 ` Greg KH
2005-02-12 0:48 ` Ingo Oeser
2005-02-14 22:43 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 8:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 8:17 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 9:52 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-02-11 17:08 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 10:53 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 17:41 ` Christian Bornträger
2005-02-11 18:15 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 18:47 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 19:33 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:36 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 19:40 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 19:57 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:06 ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-11 21:01 ` Greg KH
2005-02-12 8:30 ` Harald Dunkel
2005-02-14 22:36 ` Greg KH
2005-02-15 5:39 ` Harald Dunkel [this message]
2005-02-15 7:14 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 20:10 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 20:11 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:20 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 20:44 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:46 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 20:56 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 21:01 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-11 21:10 ` Greg KH
2005-02-17 6:46 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-02-11 21:21 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-11 21:30 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:33 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 21:54 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 21:57 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:05 ` Bill Nottingham
2005-02-11 22:12 ` Greg KH
2005-02-11 22:13 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 22:16 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 22:18 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 22:45 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 22:55 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 23:05 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-11 23:17 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-11 23:29 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-11 23:35 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-12 0:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12 0:17 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-12 0:34 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12 11:43 ` Pozsár Balázs
2005-02-12 12:10 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-12 16:27 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-02-14 22:42 ` Greg KH
2005-02-15 7:34 ` Greg KH
2005-02-15 8:15 ` Christian Zoz
2005-02-15 10:25 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-02-15 12:20 ` [sane-devel] " Julien BLACHE
2005-02-16 10:51 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:07 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:11 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-02-16 11:18 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 11:27 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 12:37 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-16 15:17 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 16:08 ` Kay Sievers
2005-02-16 23:02 ` Willem Riede
2005-02-16 23:17 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-16 23:32 ` Willem Riede
2005-02-18 17:17 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-02-18 18:11 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-18 18:33 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-02-18 19:41 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-18 20:17 ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-02-17 9:12 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-21 20:40 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-22 10:35 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-23 0:44 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-23 11:40 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-23 13:04 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-24 6:27 ` Roman Kagan
2005-02-24 19:28 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-02-25 22:07 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:07 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:11 ` Greg KH
2005-02-25 22:12 ` Greg KH
2005-02-26 17:13 ` Roman Kagan
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