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From: Piter PUNK <piterpunk@unitednerds.org>
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:57:40 +0000
Subject: Re: Moving Ubuntu to upstream udev rules (Part 2)
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Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 15:20, Scott James Remnant <scott@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>  - SUBSYSTEM="block", GROUP="disk"
>>  + SUBSYSTEM="block", ATTRS{removable}!="1", GROUP="disk"
>>  + SUBSYSTEM="block", ATTRS{removable}="1", GROUP="floppy"
>>
>>  We put removable block devices in the floppy group, you leave them in
>>  disk?  (But use the floppy group for real floppies?)
> 
> Putting gigabyte-big USB hard disks in the "floppy" group? Also some
> ATA/SCSI storage controller are marked as removable. I don't think we
> want that in the defaults. :)

Here we put floppies in "floppy" group and other removable devices
on "plugdev" group.

>>  - KERNEL="sg[0-9]*", ATTRS{type}!="3|6", GROUP="disk", MODE="0640"
>>  + SUBSYSTEMS="scsi", ATTRS{type}="0", GROUP="disk", MODE="0640"
>>  + SUBSYSTEMS="scsi", ATTRS{type}="4|5", GROUP="cdrom", MODE="0640"
> 
> We do not use "cdrom", but we could. Harald?

Oh! And CD/CD-R/CD-RW/DVD/DVD-* in "cdrom" group

>>  - KERNEL="pktcdvd[0-9]*",        NAME="pktcdvd/%k"
>>  + KERNEL="pktcdvd[0-9]*",        NAME="pktcdvd/%k", GROUP="cdrom"
> 
> Harald, you have "cdrom", and that's fine ot use?

Those are in "cdrom", too.

>>  We put CD-ROM drives and similar into the cdrom group, not disk.
>>
>>  + SUBSYSTEMS="scsi", ATTRS{type}="1|8", GROUP="tape"
>>
>>  - KERNEL="ht[0-9]*|nht[0-9]*",   GROUP="disk"
>>  + KERNEL="ht[0-9]*|nht[0-9]*",   GROUP="tape"
>>
>>  - KERNEL="pt[0-9]*|npt[0-9]*",   GROUP="disk"
>>  + KERNEL="pt[0-9]*|npt[0-9]*",   GROUP="tape"
>>
>>  - KERNEL="qft[0-9]*|nqft[0-9]*|zqft[0-9]*|nzqft[0-9]*|rawqft[0-9]*|
>>    nrawqft[0-9]*", GROUP="disk"
>>  + KERNEL="qft[0-9]*|nqft[0-9]*|zqft[0-9]*|nzqft[0-9]*|rawqft[0-9]*|
>>    nrawqft[0-9]*", GROUP="tape"
>>
>>  We put tape drives and similar into the tape group, not disk.
> 
> Hmm, we don't have a "tape" group at all. Harald you have?

Here we have the group "tape" but no rule to assign anything to
this group.

> Not sure. Removed it! /dev/audio should just be just removed from the kernel.
> 
>>  + SUBSYSTEM="sound",                     GROUP="audio"
>>
>>  And we have an "audio" group for them.
> 
> Added. Harald, could you please check, that you get an "audio" group
> too. It's as useful as "video", even when we do not put any "normal"
> users, but only daemons in it.

We have that here, too.

> If we can not agree on a default, we can do an option, but we do
> nobody a favor who works on an upstream project and who needs to find
> the differences again. So, I'm all for finding a common solution, For
> me it would not be a problem to use "dialout" if that is what we want.
> Harald?

"uucp" group is in use here... No "dialout" group.
This is really needed?

Piter PUNK