From: Robert Hancock <hancockrwd@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
"linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
Nick Bowler <nbowler@elliptictech.com>,
David Zeuthen <david@fubar.dk>,
linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org, stable@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH #upstream-fixes] libata: disable ATAPI AN by default
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 04:49:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BF610DD.20502@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BF4177B.2040108@kernel.org>
On 05/19/2010 10:53 AM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On 05/19/2010 06:14 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> Windows completely disables AN?
>>
>> Or do we simply need to be less naive about _delivery_ of AN's?
>
> I think we first need to verify what the event is about before
> delivering it to userland; IOW, it should kick a full polling op. The
> problem is the same with periodic polling. Windows does it with
> single command but we can't do that from userland as open() involves
> issuing more commands. That discrepancy is basically we're having all
> these problems with periodic polling and AN infinite looping.
>
> Hardware vendors don't consider cases where their devices are hit with
> a series of commands periodically or after raising an AN event. We
> have quite a few drives which just die after being hit repeatedly with
> media presence polling commands and this one is causing infinite loop
> by re-raising AN.
>
> So, until we can replicate the windows behavior (which actually is
> pretty reasonable - just use single GET_CONFIGURATION call for polling
> and status check), I think it's wiser to disable AN.
There are also some drives where AN is just broken - I have a Lite-ON
DH-401S BD-ROM drive which raises AN on opening the tray, but not on
closing with media inserted.
I don't know if Windows is using AN at all yet or not. Seems like a lot
of drives aren't tested well with it though.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-21 4:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-13 15:30 udev cdrom_id rules prevent unmounted CD from spinning down Nick Bowler
2010-05-13 16:27 ` Marco d'Itri
2010-05-13 20:13 ` Nick Bowler
2010-05-13 21:27 ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-13 21:37 ` Nick Bowler
2010-05-14 7:36 ` Martin Pitt
2010-05-14 13:51 ` Nick Bowler
2010-05-14 14:41 ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-14 18:48 ` Nick Bowler
2010-05-17 10:06 ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-17 12:43 ` Nick Bowler
2010-05-17 16:27 ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-17 22:54 ` Nicolas Thomas Bowler
2010-05-18 5:08 ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-18 13:25 ` Nick Bowler
2010-05-18 14:21 ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-18 16:23 ` Nick Bowler
2010-05-18 17:53 ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-18 18:14 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-18 18:20 ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-18 18:28 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-18 18:53 ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-18 19:23 ` Nick Bowler
2010-05-18 20:18 ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-19 13:23 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-19 13:38 ` [PATCH #upstream-fixes] libata: disable ATAPI AN by default Tejun Heo
2010-05-19 16:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-05-19 16:53 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-21 4:49 ` Robert Hancock [this message]
2010-05-19 16:58 ` Nick Bowler
2010-05-25 23:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-05-19 13:55 ` udev cdrom_id rules prevent unmounted CD from spinning down Kay Sievers
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