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From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: udev fork
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:44:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.1209121928550.1465@myrtle> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120912174951.GA32608@glow>

On Wed, 12 Sep 2012, Bruce Dubbs wrote:

> Greg KH wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 03:56:33PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>>> Greg KH wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What dependencies?  Run time?  Build time?  And why are dependencies
>>>> bad?  Do you have no ram in your system for them?
>>> 
>>> The configure scripts require packages that are not in LFS.
>> 
>> Like what?  Can't you add them?
>
> intltool, glib, gperf, gobject-introspection.
>
> intl needs XML::Parser.  glib needs libffi and python and can use pcre, attr, 
> d-bus, gamin, and gtk-doc.  gobject-introspection also needs glib and can use 
> cairo and gtk-doc.  cairo needs libpng, glib, and pixman and can use 
> fontconfig, gtk+, xorg libraries (and on and on).

Pkg X "can use" pkg Y (where Y is something that one might or might 
not want to install) is not an argument against requiring pkg X.

I'm one who thinks (on the basis of experience with home-rolled 
systems), that systemd really is a smarter, faster, more 
comprehensible, and more user-manageable way to get a Linux system 
up and running than sysvinit plus a big mess of shell scripts.

However, I take your point about some of the systemd dependencies, 
direct and indirect (even though systemd's configure script has a 
fair number of useful --disable-whatever options).

Why intltool, for instance? Systemd has a --disable-nls option in 
its configure script. But this is in fact just automake fraud; 
there's really no way to disable nls (and everything it brings in, 
including intltool), so far as I can tell.

--
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University




  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-09-12 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-12 17:49 udev fork sickmind
2012-09-12 17:51 ` sickmind
2012-09-12 18:05 ` Greg KH
2012-09-12 18:09 ` sickmind
2012-09-12 18:14 ` Greg KH
2012-09-12 18:15 ` sickmind
2012-09-12 18:28 ` Greg KH
2012-09-12 18:33 ` Lucas De Marchi
2012-09-12 20:56 ` Bruce Dubbs
2012-09-12 21:19 ` Greg KH
2012-09-12 21:30 ` sickmind
2012-09-12 22:11 ` Bruce Dubbs
2012-09-12 23:44 ` Allin Cottrell [this message]
2012-09-13  0:14 ` Bruce Dubbs
2012-09-13  0:38 ` Allin Cottrell
2012-09-13  2:29 ` Bruce Dubbs
2012-09-13  2:43 ` Paul Bender

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