From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Vladimir Dergachev Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 15:15:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [Xpert]Re: User-level Tasks in Hotplug Scripts? Message-Id: List-Id: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Jim Gettys wrote: > Fundamentally, we have no convention right now for any client (root or not) > to connect to an X server except on initiation of the user (unless > the user is silly enough to disable authentication entirely. > > This is an generic X issue (how to delegate authorization to connect). > There is the xauth mechanism, not very secure, but no convention on its > use in these circumstances. There is also support for kerberos, which > is reasonably secure when used properly. And there is SSH, which has > never been integrated into X's world cleanly (and probably should be). > And there is Owen's scheme for > some sort of server process, but this presents much the same fundamental > security/authentication/authorization problem as well. > > I don't have a preconcieved > notion of what the correct solution is; I'm not even very familiar with > the possibilities. > > Certainly, I want no user intervention as much of the time as possible, but > we also need a hotplug design which allows for user intervention at the > time of first use in cases where it may be necessary. The hotplug script > design needs to allow for this, even if it is not the usual case. > And there is need to automatically run GUI based programs, even after > configuration (automatically downloading images off your camera, for > example). > > Personally, I find it very frustrating to have to go looking for a configuration tool before I can use some hardware: this is not something > a (mere mortal) user knows in advance, and so don't believe the right thing > to do is necessarily nothing (though for much hardware this may be the correct > answer, it isn't for most casually used hardware). > > We can certainly split this discussion to the different communities > if people think that is best, but I wanted to get the problem aired; > there is a problem for each community to mull over at the core of this > problem. > > And someone who sends mail from an address "nogui" certainly has a strong > opinion on the topic, which may not be universal :-;. > - Jim Jim, if the user is logged in so is the rest of the user interface. Why not have a monitoring program (like console) that watches the hotplug events and invokes corresponding configuration program ? This would also allow for various user environments to customize configuration tools to match their look. Vladimir Dergachev > > > -- > Jim Gettys > Cambridge Research Laboratory > Compaq Computer Corporation > jg@pa.dec.com > > _______________________________________________ > Xpert mailing list > Xpert@XFree86.Org > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert > _______________________________________________ Linux-hotplug-devel mailing list http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net Linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-hotplug-devel