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From: Gary_Lerhaupt@Dell.com
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: Did you try devlabel
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:54:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-hotplug-103221711323818@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-hotplug-103185682023240@msgid-missing>

Yes, this approach is reasonable.  The differences between implementing
devlabel for 2.4 and 2.5 should be negligible.  I simply need to add some
code to check driverfs for the UUID before I go using the methods that I
currently do for 2.4.  Since I suspect working with driverfs will only
necessitate reading a file off in some directory somewhere, making this
change should be *easy*.  As far as hotplug's direction for 2.5, its really
just a matter of where to put the devlabel restart command.

In my mind, I see devlabel as an e2label replacement (good feedback
permitting) in which all linux boxes use it in the same manner.   Some
convention needs to be determined for naming symlinks but once an agreed
upon standard is set, start using the symlinks completely within fstab.  As
my original post states, though, I may need to add some code to comment out
references in fstab in the event that the symlink does not exist (which I
think is the better alternative to having your system fail to boot because
of this).

I actually intend on seeing how all this works with LVM which I have not
tried yet.  I am sure there are other management tools to consider but as
all we're really working with here are symlinks, any good management tool
should be able to handle it.  Its all just a matter of running
/sbin/devlabel restart just before you kick off the manager to ensure that
all your symlinks point to the right place.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Brownell [mailto:david-b@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 6:52 PM
To: Greg KH; Gary_Lerhaupt@exchange.dell.com
Cc: Linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Did you try devlabel

The hard question is how, and my preferred answer would be to focus all user
mode tools/training/docs on what'll be the 2.5 solution ("disk" hotplug),
with the 2.4 based solution mostly a "workalike" or even backport.
Certainly "evolve together" so the end-user (and sysadmin) experience isn't
of two rather divergent solutions, but just one (that likely works better on
2.5 systems but behaves also on 2.4).

Sounds to me like a 2.5ish start isn't that far away, so
a short delay seems reasonable to me.  So far as I can tell, "devlabel" is
in that interesting stage where it's not got that many users (yet) and so
it's easy to change based on experience/feedback ... and we really ought to
seek that feedback and use it to improve both 2.4 and 2.5 based systems.

So I'll install devlabel and run it myself for a while.  And
I encourage other folk to do so, and submit feedback to this list over the
next month or so.  At which point I think it'll be more practical to decide
in detail what the next steps are.

Gary, can you work with that approach?  And in any case,
could you provide a short email describing how devlabel
would work on different kinds of Linux systems?  I have
in mind a range, including desktop, small server, larger servers, and so on.
Aren't there other volume management tools a "devlabel" would need to play
with?

- Dave








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      parent reply	other threads:[~2002-09-16 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-12 18:46 Did you try devlabel Gary_Lerhaupt
2002-09-12 21:20 ` Gary_Lerhaupt
2002-09-12 22:15 ` Greg KH
2002-09-12 23:21 ` Gary_Lerhaupt
2002-09-12 23:26 ` Greg KH
2002-09-12 23:38 ` Gary_Lerhaupt
2002-09-13  5:50 ` Greg KH
2002-09-13 14:41 ` Gary_Lerhaupt
2002-09-13 19:18 ` David Brownell
2002-09-13 19:40 ` Gary_Lerhaupt
2002-09-13 19:52 ` Greg KH
2002-09-13 20:18 ` David Brownell
2002-09-13 20:39 ` Greg KH
2002-09-13 20:52 ` Gary_Lerhaupt
2002-09-13 21:02 ` Greg KH
2002-09-15 23:51 ` David Brownell
2002-09-16 22:54 ` Gary_Lerhaupt [this message]

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