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From: Havoc Pennington <hp@redhat.com>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] udev 0.1 release
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 23:27:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-hotplug-105019011119813@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-hotplug-105003172531462@msgid-missing>


On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 01:07:21AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: 
> Oh, and to compare sizes, with udev linked against klibc (static link)
> it comes out to a whopping big 6004 bytes:
> $ size udev
>    text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
>    5572       4     392    5968    1750 udev
> 

If it isn't obvious (I guess it is), that's an apples and oranges
comparison - though udev being smaller than /bin/true is either bad
for /bin/true or pretty good for udev. ;-)

I would want to compare D-BUS to a CORBA implementation, DCOP, M-BUS,
SOAP, or something like that (though it's reasonably different from
all of those). It's about the same size as DCOP, and about half the
size of ORBit2 which is a small CORBA. Then there's a large CORBA like
MICO that uses several megabytes. No clue how big an M-BUS
implementation is.

The important thing though in my mind isn't the raw size comparison
but what the size is "spent" on - for D-BUS the size is partially
spent on avoiding dependencies (DCOP and ORBit rely on GLib/Qt for
many things), and robustness (thread locks, OOM handling, robust API,
unit testability, and careful input validation). There's also size
cost to the abstractions made: system vs. per-session bus, bus daemon
vs. one-to-one, network transport (tcp vs. unix domain vs. whatever),
authentication mechanism (cookies, socket credentials, kerberos), and
so forth.

Other IPC sofware that's about the same size spends its code size on
different things, it's all about the tradeoffs.

Havoc






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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-04-12 23:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-11  3:24 [ANNOUNCE] udev 0.1 release Greg KH
2003-04-11  6:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 17:10 ` Jeremy Jackson
2003-04-11 17:18 ` Justin Cormack
2003-04-11 17:20 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:21 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:46 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 18:02 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-11 18:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 18:12 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 18:23 ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-11 18:30 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 18:31 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 18:52 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:00 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:07 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:09 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 19:28 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 19:29 ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-11 19:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:38 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 19:54 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 19:58 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:59 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:09 ` Nick Craig-Wood
2003-04-11 20:10 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:16 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 20:16 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:23 ` Chris Hanson
2003-04-11 20:29 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 20:32 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:39 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 20:42 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 20:43 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:47 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 20:48 ` David Lang
2003-04-11 20:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 20:59 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 21:03 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 21:28 ` Martin Mares
2003-04-11 21:52 ` Jason Riedy
2003-04-11 22:00 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 22:03 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 22:19 ` Tim Hockin
2003-04-11 22:27 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:30 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:32 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:36 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:38 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-11 22:41 ` David Lang
2003-04-11 22:42 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:43 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 22:51 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:53 ` Jason Riedy
2003-04-11 22:53 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:56 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:58 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:59 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 23:01 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:03 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:23 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 23:25 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 23:25 ` Jason Riedy
2003-04-11 23:26 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 23:27 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:31 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:32 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:32 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:35 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:37 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:37 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:39 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:45 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  0:04 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-12  0:11 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  0:19 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-12  4:20 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  6:45 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-12  7:49 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12  7:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12  8:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12  8:07 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 12:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-12 14:45 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-12 23:27 ` Havoc Pennington [this message]
2003-04-19  4:16 ` David Brownell
2003-04-19  4:39 ` David Brownell

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