Hi Greg, here are the updated patches for udev, please ignore all previous sent. Included is the man page update, support for subdir creation/removal, basic node ownership support and a namedev correction. thanks, Kay 01-udev.8.diff: man page style fixes present the tiny udev in bold font :) 02-udev-add.c-subdirs.diff: 02-udev-remove.c-subdirs.diff: support subdirectory creation/removal for NAME="/devfs/is/crazy/video0" create parent subdirs for device node if needed remove subdirs when last node is removed 03-udev-add.c-set_owner.diff set uid/gid of node specified in udev.permissions only numeric id's are supported cause we can't resolve with klibc or libc before real /etc is mounted 04-namedev.c-cleanup.diff remove part of udev that appends the kernel enumeration to character devices in LABEL method: NAME="webcam" results in /udev/webcam0