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From: "Grover, Andrew" <andrew.grover@intel.com>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: hotplug TTD
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 06:34:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-hotplug-97910854014871@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-hotplug-97901650309422@msgid-missing>

Is it unreasonable, long-term, to move towards a unified Linux hotplug
architecture?

Under both Windows and BeOS, a given bus driver is responsible for
enumerating the devices on it, and it tells a central "configuration
manager", who then is the one who loads the drivers.

Having one entity who knows about all devices on a system is also great for
power management, and implementing suspend-to-memory and suspend-to-disk.

Thoughts?

Regards -- Andy


> From: Adam J. Richter [mailto:adam@yggdrasil.com]
>         Perhaps I'm just being pedantic, but I'd like to just clarify
> that many of the Linux-related facilities that people refer to as
> "hot plugging" in are not really hot plugging, but rather a set of
> facilities used by most of the kernel hot plugging schemes:
> 
>                 1. a standardized hardware identification scheme
>                    for the bus in question (ISAPnP, PCI, USB, other
>                    systems covered by Intel Plug'n'Play 
> standards, etc.)
> 
>                 2. a facility for dynamically loading kernel driver
>                    modules for that bus.
> 
>                 3. A MODULE_DEVICE_ID table for that format in each
>                    relevant driver.
> 
>                 4. Support for that ID table format in depmod
>         
>                 5.  A user level program that reads the 
> appropriate depmod
>                     modules.___map and figures out which 
> modules to load.
> 
>         For example, I understand that ISAPnP hardware is not
> capable of hot plugging, but it uses these same facilities.
> Conceivably, other non-hotplug busses that have quasi-standard
> schemes for hardware enumeration could use these facilities
> as well (NuBus? S-Bus?).


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-10  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-09  4:59 hotplug TTD Morton, Andrew [WOLL:4009-M:EXCH]
2001-01-09  5:47 ` Miles Lane
2001-01-09  6:55 ` Miles Lane
2001-01-09  8:49 ` Adam J. Richter
2001-01-09 17:09 ` David Brownell
2001-01-09 17:38 ` David Brownell
2001-01-10  6:20 ` Grover, Andrew
2001-01-10  6:34 ` Grover, Andrew [this message]
2001-01-10 10:58 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-10 10:58 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-10 10:59 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-11 16:10 ` David Brownell
2001-01-11 16:40 ` David Brownell
2001-01-11 17:18 ` David Hinds
2001-01-11 18:04 ` David Brownell
2001-01-12  0:09 ` Grover, Andrew
2001-01-12  0:33 ` Grover, Andrew
2001-01-12  1:13 ` Grover, Andrew
2001-01-12 12:51 ` Andrew Morton
2001-01-12 16:42 ` David Brownell
2001-01-12 17:37 ` David Brownell
2001-01-12 23:45 ` Keith Owens
2001-01-13 18:54 ` David Brownell
2001-01-13 23:25 ` Keith Owens
2001-02-03 23:37 ` Miles Lane
2001-02-03 23:48 ` Keith Owens

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