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From: Oliver Neukum <Oliver.Neukum@lrz.uni-muenchen.de>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SCSI Patches - mostly on/off-line stuff
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:45:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-hotplug-97985788814049@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-hotplug-97925037703688@msgid-missing>

> directory notification capability in lk 2.4 (see
> Documentation/dnotify.txt) could then be used to detect
> changes in the /dev directory (or below).

Why ? Devfs will call devfsd on its own.

> A user mode notification daemon could read /proc/scsi/scsi
> periodically to detect the arrival and departure of SCSI

No ! This must not be done. Parsing /proc/scsi/scsi or for that matter
any other file in /proc by a user space demon is a race condition.
There's nothing you can do to change that. There's no way you could guarantee
that the information gained by parsing is still valid when you use it.
The coordination of a new device to a major/minor (or name) must be made in
kernel space and cannot be broken until the user mode helper returns.

Either devfs is used to do that or new event types are added to the 
/sbin/hotplug mechanism. For SCSI you'd need it in the bus scanning code
and in the partition recognition code. As this is a larger undertaking, this 
would indicate IMHO that it'd be wiser to use the infrastructure contained in 
devfs. But there are other possibilities, however it must be done in kernel 
space.

	Regards
		Oliver

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-18 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-11 21:56 SCSI Patches - mostly on/off-line stuff Douglas Gilbert
2001-01-11 22:43 ` Oliver.Neukum
2001-01-17 20:32 ` David Brownell
2001-01-18  0:08 ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-01-18  9:03 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-01-18  9:25 ` Miles Lane
2001-01-18 15:37 ` Eric Youngdale
2001-01-18 16:20 ` Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-18 16:49 ` Prasenjit Sarkar
2001-01-18 16:50 ` Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-18 17:03 ` Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-18 18:14 ` David Brownell
2001-01-18 19:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-01-18 19:20 ` Prasenjit Sarkar
2001-01-18 19:45 ` Miles Lane
2001-01-18 21:08 ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-01-18 21:41 ` Miles Lane
2001-01-18 22:07 ` David Brownell
2001-01-18 22:15 ` David Brownell
2001-01-18 22:45 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2001-01-18 23:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-01-18 23:25 ` Miles Lane
2001-01-18 23:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2001-01-19  2:08 ` David Brownell
2001-01-19  2:10 ` Bob Frey
2001-01-19  2:16 ` Venkatesh Ramamurthy

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