From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Miles Lane Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 06:44:01 +0000 Subject: Re: Need new modutils aliases for 2.4.0? (Was) Re: Cannothotplugcardbus Message-Id: List-Id: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org > David Hinds wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:43:18PM -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > > David Brownell wrote: > > > > > > My thoughts exactly. 2.4 should be hotplugging the 2.4 kernel's > > > Cardbus drivers ... unbundled pcmcia_cs drivers shouldn't be used, > > > as a rule, the kernel drivers get more attention (and the expectation > > > is that'll continue). > > Actually I think all the evidence suggests that at this point the > unbundled pcmcia drivers still get considerably more attention than > the kernel drivers, at least at the end user level. Well, during the 2.5 time-frame, the kernel developers will probably put more effort into improving the kernel drivers, while you continue (?) to work on improving the pcmcia-cs drivers. I agree with you that the pcmcia-cs drivers are getting *way* more use and testing. I feel frustrated about this. We could be much further along if one or two kernel developers devoted their focus to getting PCMCIA/Cardbus development and testing into good shape. Currently, people who are willing to test the kernel drivers don't have a "champion" to turn to. You have done an admirable job of gathering the community of users and serving them. I'd be willing to do a lot of driver testing, but it requires far more hardware than I have access to. I do think that you, David, could help by evangelizing testing of the kernel drivers. Most of what people use PCMCIA/Cardbus devices for is adjunct to mission-critical work. That means that if folks are willing to rebuild their kernel and do some testing, they can boot back into their stable, comfy environments pretty easily. It would be a tremendous help if testers would step up and simply tell us what's broken! > > I would like to explore the "mutual-noninterference pact" > > between Cardmgr and /sbin/hotplug. It seems important to > > get right. Obviously, David Hinds will play a big role > > in this. > > I have added code to cardmgr to parse modules.pcimap to figure out > which cards should be handled by the hotplug stuff. I still have a > few things to clean up but I don't think it will be hard. Wow! That's great news! Thanks for working on this. Miles _______________________________________________ Linux-hotplug-devel mailing list http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net Linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-hotplug-devel