Re: OT(?) -- Should the net.agent script cause "ifup lo" to be run?

[Bill Nottingham <notting@redhat.com>]

David Brownell (david-b@pacbell.net) said: 
> Noise in /var/log/messages that will normally be ignored.
> (If it's a problem, wouldn't it be a cardmgr problem?)

Yes, you could certainly make cardmgr be quiet.

> Systems with a dozen USB devices are not uncommon;
> I'd rather rely on hub LEDs for feedback than get lots of
> noise on reboot, or when I plug in a hub that has a bunch
> of devices already connected.

I'm not talking about USB at all. I'm talking about the transition
of users from 2.2 based systems to 2.4, and their expectations
thereof.

> "Have both these installed and any supported card will work"
> doesn't seem odd!  Quite the opposite.

I don't see how telling people 'you know all that stuff that used
to work fine? Now you need to install this *additional* package, which
is subtly different, and is configured differently, just to get 
the same functionality' wouldn't seem odd to them, especially when
they have to keep the old package around.

Basically, I just find the idea of using both at the same time ugly;
I'd prefer sticking with cardmgr, or doing the kernel work and
going fully to the hotplug package.

> > It's actually not too hard to make cardmgr work fine with 2.4.
> 
> Never said it was.  The question is how to handle cardbus
> support, given that pcmcia_cs (with cardmgr) is oriented
> towards pcmcia while the overall Linux direction seems to
> be to towards a more general framework for pci hotplug.

One can use cardmgr's previous cardbus support with minor kernel
patches.

Bill

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