From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Miles Lane Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:46:41 +0000 Subject: Re: OT(?) -- Should the net.agent script cause "ifup lo" to be run? Message-Id: List-Id: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org David Brownell wrote: >>> I think the plan of record for 2.4 is to make hotplug handle cardbus >>> and pcmcia_cs/cardmgr handle pcmcia. If anyone thinks it's >>> something else, please speak up! No. Unless I am greatly mistaken, all PC Cards can be handled by /sbin/hotplug by 2.4.x drivers and cardmgr should ignore devices supported by those drivers. I guess all that's really needed from pcmcia_cs at this point is cardctl and the config files. >> That's rather ugly (cardmgr will still print messages for everything >> that's inserted), It shouldn't, since it should be ignoring those devices. > Noise in /var/log/messages that will normally be ignored. > (If it's a problem, wouldn't it be a cardmgr problem?) > >> inconsistent in UI (cardmgr beeps, etc., hotplug >> doesn't), Shouldn't happen, unless you are trying to mix 2.4.x drivers with pcmcia_cs drivers (can this even work?). I punted on testing pcmcia_cs stuff a long time ago and just use the 2.4.x drivers for everything. Works for me. > Though if you really think that CardBus hotplugging should > beep, that should be an easy patch ... cPCI evidently uses > blue lights in its feedback (doesn't Compaq's Hotplug PCI > use LEDs too?), so that shouldn't be a PCI-wide policy. I don't think the beeps are needed, but I suppose we could make it a configuration setting. Some people, understandably, like the reassurance of system feedback telling them that everything is working as it should be. >> and just generally odd from an end-user's perspective >> (You see, if you plug *that* card into the slot, you need cardmgr >> running; if you plug that other card in, you need hotplug.) > > > "Have both these installed and any supported card will work" > doesn't seem odd! Quite the opposite. If you are using the 2.4.x kernel drivers and pcmcia_cs cardctl and config files, none of this should be a problem. >> It's actually not too hard to make cardmgr work fine with 2.4. > > > Never said it was. The question is how to handle cardbus > support, given that pcmcia_cs (with cardmgr) is oriented > towards pcmcia while the overall Linux direction seems to > be to towards a more general framework for pci hotplug. The sooner we can supercede pcmcia_cs functionality with drivers in the kernel tree and a hotplug support package, the happier I'll be. Miles _______________________________________________ Linux-hotplug-devel mailing list http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net Linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-hotplug-devel