From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Miles Lane Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:23:59 +0000 Subject: Re: OT(?) -- Should the net.agent script cause "ifup lo" to be run? Message-Id: List-Id: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org Bill Nottingham wrote: > David Brownell (david-b@pacbell.net) said: > >> Noise in /var/log/messages that will normally be ignored. >> (If it's a problem, wouldn't it be a cardmgr problem?) > > > Yes, you could certainly make cardmgr be quiet. > > >> Systems with a dozen USB devices are not uncommon; >> I'd rather rely on hub LEDs for feedback than get lots of >> noise on reboot, or when I plug in a hub that has a bunch >> of devices already connected. > > > I'm not talking about USB at all. I'm talking about the transition > of users from 2.2 based systems to 2.4, and their expectations > thereof. > > >> "Have both these installed and any supported card will work" >> doesn't seem odd! Quite the opposite. > > > I don't see how telling people 'you know all that stuff that used > to work fine? Now you need to install this *additional* package, which > is subtly different, and is configured differently, just to get > the same functionality' wouldn't seem odd to them, especially when > they have to keep the old package around. If we don't jettison pcmcia_cs soon by just bundling cardctl and the config files into a hotplug distribution, aren't we just overlooking the obvious? Please explain to me why I am wrong about this. > Basically, I just find the idea of using both at the same time ugly; > I'd prefer sticking with cardmgr, or doing the kernel work and > going fully to the hotplug package. Yes. I believe the plan is to go hotplug-only ASAP. If you can suggest exactly what you think is needed to make that happen, that would be a good start. >>> It's actually not too hard to make cardmgr work fine with 2.4. >> >> Never said it was. The question is how to handle cardbus >> support, given that pcmcia_cs (with cardmgr) is oriented >> towards pcmcia while the overall Linux direction seems to >> be to towards a more general framework for pci hotplug. > > > One can use cardmgr's previous cardbus support with minor kernel > patches. Can you explain what you mean a bit more? Miles _______________________________________________ Linux-hotplug-devel mailing list http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net Linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-hotplug-devel