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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: "Sa, Nuno" <Nuno.Sa@analog.com>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	"linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org" <linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/6] dt-bindings: axi-fan-control: add tacho properties
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 08:03:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f6d415a7-e113-1dda-727e-0d645c8114cb@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR03MB636641D09289D1F696A64C9299119@PH0PR03MB6366.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

On 7/16/21 12:44 AM, Sa, Nuno wrote:
[ ... ]
>>
>> Are you sure you can ever get this stable ? Each fan has its own
>> properties
>> and tolerances. If you replace a fan in a given system, you might get
>> different RPM numbers. The RPM will differ widely from system to
>> system
>> and from fan to fan. Anything that assumes a specific RPM in
>> devicetree
>> data seems to be quite vulnerable to failures. I have experienced that
>> recently with a different chip which also tries to correlate RPM and
>> PWM
>> and fails quite miserably.
>>
>> In my experience, anything other than minimum fan speed is really a
>> recipe
>> for instability and sporadic false failures. Even setting a minimum fan
>> speed
>> is tricky because it depends a lot on the fan.
> 
> I see what you mean. So, I had to go through this process when testing
> this changes because the fan I'm using is different from the default one
> used to develop and stablish the default values in the IP core. The core

Exactly my point.

> provides you with a register which contains the tacho measurements in
> clock cycles. You can read that for all the PWM points of interest
> (with devmem2 for example) and make your own "calibration". I assume
> that people have to go through this process before putting some values
> in the devicetree. I'm aware this is not the neatest process but I guess it's
> acceptable...
> 

Do you really expect everyone using a system with this chip to go through
this process and update its devicetree configuration, and then repeat it
whenever a fan is changed ? Given how dynamic this is, I really wonder
if that information should be in devicetree in the first place.

Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-16 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-08 12:01 [RFC PATCH 0/6] AXI FAN new features and improvements Nuno Sá
2021-07-08 12:01 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] hwmon: axi-fan-control: make sure the clock is enabled Nuno Sá
2021-07-17 17:24   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-07-19  7:27     ` Sa, Nuno
2021-07-08 12:01 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] hwmon: axi-fan-control: add tacho devicetree properties Nuno Sá
2021-07-08 12:01 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] dt-bindings: axi-fan-control: add tacho properties Nuno Sá
2021-07-12 17:26   ` Rob Herring
2021-07-15 10:26     ` Sa, Nuno
2021-07-15 20:39       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-07-16  7:44         ` Sa, Nuno
2021-07-16 15:03           ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2021-07-19  7:46             ` Sa, Nuno
2021-07-21 15:00               ` Guenter Roeck
2021-07-22 13:00                 ` Sa, Nuno
2021-07-22 15:23                   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-07-08 12:01 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] hwmon: axi-fan-control: handle irqs in natural order Nuno Sá
2021-07-08 12:01 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] hwmon: axi-fan-control: clear the fan fault irq at startup Nuno Sá
2021-07-08 12:01 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] hwmon: axi-fan-control: support temperature vs pwm points Nuno Sá
2021-07-17 17:22   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-07-19  7:23     ` Sa, Nuno
2021-07-27  8:42 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] AXI FAN new features and improvements Sa, Nuno
2021-07-28 18:38   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-08-02  8:04     ` Sa, Nuno

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