From: Roman Kagan <rvkagan@yandex-team.ru>
To: Jon Doron <arilou@gmail.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, vkuznets@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/1] x86/kvm/hyper-v: Add support to SYNIC exit on EOM
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 16:37:42 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200424133742.GA2439920@rvkaganb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200418064127.GB1917435@jondnuc>
On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 09:41:27AM +0300, Jon Doron wrote:
> On 17/04/2020, Roman Kagan wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 03:54:30PM +0300, Jon Doron wrote:
> > > On 16/04/2020, Roman Kagan wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:38:46AM +0300, Jon Doron wrote:
> > > > > According to the TLFS:
> > > > > "A write to the end of message (EOM) register by the guest causes the
> > > > > hypervisor to scan the internal message buffer queue(s) associated with
> > > > > the virtual processor.
> > > > >
> > > > > If a message buffer queue contains a queued message buffer, the hypervisor
> > > > > attempts to deliver the message.
> > > > >
> > > > > Message delivery succeeds if the SIM page is enabled and the message slot
> > > > > corresponding to the SINTx is empty (that is, the message type in the
> > > > > header is set to HvMessageTypeNone).
> > > > > If a message is successfully delivered, its corresponding internal message
> > > > > buffer is dequeued and marked free.
> > > > > If the corresponding SINTx is not masked, an edge-triggered interrupt is
> > > > > delivered (that is, the corresponding bit in the IRR is set).
> > > > >
> > > > > This register can be used by guests to poll for messages. It can also be
> > > > > used as a way to drain the message queue for a SINTx that has
> > > > > been disabled (that is, masked)."
> > > >
> > > > Doesn't this work already?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Well if you dont have SCONTROL and a GSI associated with the SINT then it
> > > does not...
> >
> > Yes you do need both of these.
> >
> > > > > So basically this means that we need to exit on EOM so the hypervisor
> > > > > will have a chance to send all the pending messages regardless of the
> > > > > SCONTROL mechnaisim.
> > > >
> > > > I might be misinterpreting the spec, but my understanding is that
> > > > SCONTROL {en,dis}ables the message queueing completely. What the quoted
> > > > part means is that a write to EOM should trigger the message source to
> > > > push a new message into the slot, regardless of whether the SINT was
> > > > masked or not.
> > > >
> > > > And this (I think, haven't tested) should already work. The userspace
> > > > just keeps using the SINT route as it normally does, posting
> > > > notifications to the corresponding irqfd when posting a message, and
> > > > waiting on the resamplerfd for the message slot to become free. If the
> > > > SINT is masked KVM will skip injecting the interrupt, that's it.
> > > >
> > > > Roman.
> > >
> > > That's what I was thinking originally as well, but then i noticed KDNET as a
> > > VMBus client (and it basically runs before anything else) is working in this
> > > polling mode, where SCONTROL is disabled and it just loops, and if it saw
> > > there is a PENDING message flag it will issue an EOM to indicate it has free
> > > the slot.
> >
> > Who sets up the message page then? Doesn't it enabe SCONTROL as well?
> >
>
> KdNet is the one setting the SIMP and it's not setting the SCONTROL, ill
> paste output of KVM traces for the relevant MSRs
>
> > Note that, even if you don't see it being enabled by Windows, it can be
> > enabled by the firmware and/or by the bootloader.
> >
> > Can you perhaps try with the SeaBIOS from
> > https://src.openvz.org/projects/UP/repos/seabios branch hv-scsi? It
> > enables SCONTROL and leaves it that way.
> >
> > I'd also suggest tracing kvm_msr events (both reads and writes) for
> > SCONTROL and SIMP msrs, to better understand the picture.
> >
> > So far the change you propose appears too heavy to work around the
> > problem of disabled SCONTROL. You seem to be better off just making
> > sure it's enabled (either by the firmware or slighly violating the spec
> > and initializing to enabled from the start), and sticking to the
> > existing infrastructure for posting messages.
> >
>
> I guess there is something I'm missing here but let's say the BIOS would
> have set the SCONTROL but the OS is not setting it, who is in charge of
> handling the interrupts?
SCONTROL doesn't enable the interrupts, it enables SynIC as a whole.
The interrupts are enabled via individual SINTx msrs. This SeaBIOS
branch does exactly this: it enables the SynIC via SCONTROL, and then
specific SynIC functionality via SIMP/SIEFP, but doesn't activate SINTx
and works in polling mode.
I agree that this global SCONTROL switch seems redundant but it appears
to match the spec.
> > > (There are a bunch of patches i sent on the QEMU mailing list as well where
> > > i CCed you, I will probably revise it a bit but was hoping to get KVM
> > > sorted out first).
> >
> > I'll look through the archive, should be there, thanks.
> >
> > Roman.
>
> I tried testing with both the SeaBIOS branch you have suggested and the
> EDK2, unfortunately I could not get the EDK2 build to identify my VM drive
> to boot from (not sure why)
>
> Here is an output of KVM trace for the relevant MSRs (SCONTROL and SIMP)
>
> QEMU Default BIOS
> -----------------
> qemu-system-x86-613 [000] .... 1121.080722: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000080 data 0x0 host 1
> qemu-system-x86-613 [000] .... 1121.080722: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0x0 host 1
> qemu-system-x86-613 [000] .N.. 1121.095592: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000080 data 0x0 host 1
> qemu-system-x86-613 [000] .N.. 1121.095592: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0x0 host 1
> Choose Windows DebugEntry
> qemu-system-x86-613 [001] .... 1165.185227: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000083 = 0x0
> qemu-system-x86-613 [001] .... 1165.185255: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0xfa1001 host 0
> qemu-system-x86-613 [001] .... 1165.185255: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000083 = 0xfa1001
> qemu-system-x86-613 [001] .... 1165.193206: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000083 = 0xfa1001
> qemu-system-x86-613 [001] .... 1165.193236: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0xfa1000 host 0
> qemu-system-x86-613 [001] .... 1165.193237: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000083 = 0xfa1000
>
>
> SeaBIOS hv-scsci
> ----------------
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1313.072714: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000080 data 0x0 host 1
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1313.072714: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0x0 host 1
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1313.087752: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000080 data 0x0 host 1
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1313.087752: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0x0 host 1
Initialization (host == 1)
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1313.156675: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000083 = 0x0
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1313.156680: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0x7fffe001 host 0
> Choose Windows DebugEntry
I guess this is a bit misplaced timewise, BIOS is still working here
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1313.156680: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000083 = 0x7fffe001
BIOS sets up message page
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1313.162111: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000080 = 0x0
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1313.162118: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000080 data 0x1 host 0
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1313.162119: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000080 = 0x1
BIOS activates SCONTROL
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1313.246758: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000083 = 0x7fffe001
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1313.246764: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0x0 host 0
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1313.246764: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000083 = 0x0
BIOS clears message page (it's not needed once the VMBus device was
brought up)
I guess the choice of Windows DebugEntry appeared somewhere here.
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1348.904727: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000083 = 0x0
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1348.904771: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0xfa1001 host 0
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1348.904772: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000083 = 0xfa1001
Bootloader (debug stub?) sets up the message page
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1348.919170: kvm_msr: msr_read 40000083 = 0xfa1001
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1348.919183: kvm_hv_synic_set_msr: vcpu_id 0 msr 0x40000083 data 0xfa1000 host 0
> qemu-system-x86-656 [001] .... 1348.919183: kvm_msr: msr_write 40000083 = 0xfa1000
Message page is being disabled again.
I guess you only filtered SCONTROL and SIMP, skipping e.g. SVERSION,
GUEST_OS_ID, HYPERCALL, etc., which are also part of the exchange here.
> I could not get the EDK2 setup to work though
> (https://src.openvz.org/projects/UP/repos/edk2 branch hv-scsi)
>
> It does not detect my VM hard drive not sure why (this is how i configured
> it:
> -drive file=./win10.qcow2,format=qcow2,if=none,id=drive_disk0 \
> -device virtio-blk-pci,drive=drive_disk0 \
>
> (Is there something special i need to configure it order for it to work?, I
> tried building EDK2 with and without SMM_REQUIRE and SECURE_BOOT_ENABLE)
No special configuration I can think of.
> But in general it sounds like there is something I dont fully understand
> when SCONTROL is enabled, then a GSI is associated with this SintRoute.
>
> Then when the guest triggers an EOI via the APIC we will trigger the GSI
> notification, which will give us another go on trying to copy the message
> into it's slot.
Right.
> So is it the OS that is in charge of setting the EOI?
Yes.
> If so then it needs to
> be aware of SCONTROL being enabled and just having it left set by the BIOS
> might not be enough?
Yes it needs to be aware of SCONTROL being enabled. However, this
awareness may be based on a pure assumption that the previous entity
(BIOS or bootloader) did it already.
> Also in the TLFS (looking at v6) they mention that message queueing has "3
> exit conditions", which will cause the hypervisor to try and attempt to
> deliver the additional messages.
>
> The 3 exit conditions they refer to are:
> * Another message buffer is queued.
> * The guest indicates the “end of interrupt” by writing to the APIC’s EOI
> register.
> * The guest indicates the “end of message” by writing to the SynIC’s EOM
> register.
>
> Also notice this additional exit is only if there is a pending message and
> not for every EOM.
This meaning of "exit" doesn't trivially correspond to what we have in
KVM. A write to an msr does cause a vmexit. Then KVM notifies resample
eventfds for all SINTs that have them set up, no matter if there's a
pending message in the slot. It may be slightly more optimal to only
notify those having indicated a pending message, but I don't see the
current behavior break anything or violate the spec, so, as EOMs are not
used on fast paths, I woudn't bother optimizing.
Roman.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-24 13:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-16 8:38 [PATCH v2 0/1] x86/kvm/hyper-v: Add support to SYNIC exit on EOM Jon Doron
2020-04-16 8:38 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Jon Doron
2020-04-16 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] " Roman Kagan
2020-04-16 12:54 ` Jon Doron
2020-04-17 10:42 ` Roman Kagan
2020-04-18 6:41 ` Jon Doron
2020-04-24 12:20 ` Jon Doron
2020-04-24 13:37 ` Roman Kagan [this message]
2020-04-25 6:16 ` Jon Doron
2020-05-02 14:47 ` Jon Doron
2020-05-03 19:19 ` Roman Kagan
2020-05-04 15:55 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-05-05 8:01 ` Roman Kagan
2020-05-05 10:38 ` Jon Doron
2020-05-05 20:00 ` Roman Kagan
2020-05-06 4:49 ` Jon Doron
2020-05-06 8:46 ` Roman Kagan
2020-05-07 3:00 ` Jon Doron
2020-05-08 14:29 ` Jon Doron
2020-05-08 16:56 ` Roman Kagan
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