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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	"Kalra, Ashish" <ashish.kalra@amd.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv11 05/19] x86/relocate_kernel: Use named labels for less confusion
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 17:15:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240529151531.GDZldGk5cBbyPrOBRP@fat_crate.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55bc0649-c017-49ab-905d-212f140a403f@citrix.com>

On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 01:33:35PM +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> Seems I've gained a reputation...

Yes you have. You have this weird interest in very deep uarch details
that I can't share. Not at that detail. :-P

> jmp 1f dates back to ye olde 8086, which started the whole trend of the
> instruction pointer just being a figment of the ISA's imagination[1].
> 
> Hardware maintains the pointer to the next byte to fetch (the prefetch
> queue was up to 6 bytes), and there was a micro-op to subtract the
> current length of the prefetch queue from the accumulator.
> 
> In those days, the prefetch queue was not coherent with main memory, and
> jumps (being a discontinuity in the instruction stream) simply flushed
> the prefetch queue.
> 
> This was necessary after modifying executable code, because otherwise
> you could end up executing stale bytes from the prefetch queue and then
> non-stale bytes thereafter.  (Otherwise known as the way to distinguish
> the 8086 from the 8088 because the latter only had a 4 byte prefetch queue.)

Thanks - that certainly wakes up a long-asleep neuron in the back of my
mind...

> Anyway.  It's how you used to spell "serialising operation" before that
> term ever entered the architecture.  Linux still supports CPUs prior to
> the Pentium, so still needs to care about prefetch queues in the 486.
> 
> However, this example appears to be in 64bit code and following a write
> to CR4 which will be fully serialising, so it's probably copy&paste from
> 32bit code where it would be necessary in principle.

Yap, fully agreed. We could try to remove it and see what complains.

Nikolay, wanna do a patch which properly explains the situation?

> https://www.righto.com/2023/01/inside-8086-processors-instruction.html#fn:pc
> 
> In fact, anyone who hasn't should read the entire series on the 8086,
> https://www.righto.com/p/index.html

Oh yeah, already bookmarked.

Thanks Andy!

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-29 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-28  9:55 [PATCHv11 00/19] x86/tdx: Add kexec support Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 01/19] x86/acpi: Extract ACPI MADT wakeup code into a separate file Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28 13:47   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 02/19] x86/apic: Mark acpi_mp_wake_* variables as __ro_after_init Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 03/19] cpu/hotplug: Add support for declaring CPU offlining not supported Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 04/19] cpu/hotplug, x86/acpi: Disable CPU offlining for ACPI MADT wakeup Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 05/19] x86/relocate_kernel: Use named labels for less confusion Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-29 10:47   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-05-29 11:17     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-29 11:28       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-05-29 12:33         ` Andrew Cooper
2024-05-29 15:15           ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2024-06-04  0:24       ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-06-04  9:15         ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-04 15:21           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-04 17:57             ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-11 18:26             ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-06-12  9:22               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-12 23:06                 ` Andrew Cooper
2024-06-12 23:25                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-06-03 14:43     ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-06-12 12:10       ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-06-03 22:43     ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 06/19] x86/kexec: Keep CR4.MCE set during kexec for TDX guest Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28 11:12   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-29 11:39   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 07/19] x86/mm: Make x86_platform.guest.enc_status_change_*() return errno Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 08/19] x86/mm: Return correct level from lookup_address() if pte is none Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 09/19] x86/tdx: Account shared memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-04 16:08   ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-04 16:24     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 10/19] x86/mm: Add callbacks to prepare encrypted memory for kexec Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-29 10:42   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-02 12:39     ` [PATCHv11.1 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-02 12:42       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-02 12:44     ` [PATCHv11.2 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-04 16:16   ` [PATCHv11 " Dave Hansen
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 11/19] x86/tdx: Convert shared memory back to private on kexec Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-31 15:14   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-05-31 17:34     ` Kalra, Ashish
2024-05-31 18:06       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-02 14:20     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-02 14:23     ` [PATCHv11.1 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-03  8:37       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-04 15:32         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-04 15:47           ` Dave Hansen
2024-06-04 16:14             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-04 18:05               ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-05 12:21                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-05 16:24                   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-06 12:39                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-04 16:27   ` [PATCHv11 " Dave Hansen
2024-06-05 12:43     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-05 16:05       ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 12/19] x86/mm: Make e820__end_ram_pfn() cover E820_TYPE_ACPI ranges Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 13/19] x86/mm: Do not zap page table entries mapping unaccepted memory table during kdump Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 14/19] x86/acpi: Rename fields in acpi_madt_multiproc_wakeup structure Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 15/19] x86/acpi: Do not attempt to bring up secondary CPUs in kexec case Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 16/19] x86/smp: Add smp_ops.stop_this_cpu() callback Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 17/19] x86/mm: Introduce kernel_ident_mapping_free() Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 18/19] x86/acpi: Add support for CPU offlining for ACPI MADT wakeup method Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-03  8:39   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-07 15:14     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-10 13:40       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-10 14:01         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-11 15:47           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-11 19:46             ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-12  9:24               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-12  9:29                 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-13 13:41                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-13 14:56                     ` Borislav Petkov
2024-06-14 14:06                       ` Tom Lendacky
2024-06-18 12:20                         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-06-21 13:38                     ` Borislav Petkov
2024-05-28  9:55 ` [PATCHv11 19/19] ACPI: tables: Print MULTIPROC_WAKEUP when MADT is parsed Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-05-28 10:01 ` [PATCHv11 00/19] x86/tdx: Add kexec support Rafael J. Wysocki

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