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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, kys@microsoft.com, haiyangz@microsoft.com,
	wei.liu@kernel.org, decui@microsoft.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	hpa@zytor.com, pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com,
	seanjc@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, ardb@kernel.org,
	kees@kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, samitolvanen@google.com,
	ojeda@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] x86/kvm/emulate: Avoid RET for fastops
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 10:38:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250416083859.GH4031@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <zgsycf7arbsadpphod643qljqqsk5rbmidrhhrnm2j7qie4gu2@g7pzud43yj4q>

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 07:39:41AM -0700, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 09:44:21AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 03:36:50PM -0700, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 01:11:43PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > Since there is only a single fastop() function, convert the FASTOP
> > > > stuff from CALL_NOSPEC+RET to JMP_NOSPEC+JMP, avoiding the return
> > > > thunks and all that jazz.
> > > > 
> > > > Specifically FASTOPs rely on the return thunk to preserve EFLAGS,
> > > > which not all of them can trivially do (call depth tracing suffers
> > > > here).
> > > > 
> > > > Objtool strenuously complains about things, therefore fix up the
> > > > various problems:
> > > > 
> > > >  - indirect call without a .rodata, fails to determine JUMP_TABLE,
> > > >    add an annotation for this.
> > > >  - fastop functions fall through, create an exception for this case
> > > >  - unreachable instruction after fastop_return, save/restore
> > > 
> > > I think this breaks unwinding.  Each of the individual fastops inherits
> > > fastop()'s stack but the ORC doesn't reflect that.
> > 
> > I'm not sure I understand. There is only the one location, and we
> > simply save/restore the state around the one 'call'.
> 
> The problem isn't fastop() but rather the tiny functions it "calls".
> Each of those is marked STT_FUNC so it gets its own ORC data saying the
> return address is at RSP+8.
> 
> Changing from CALL_NOSPEC+RET to JMP_NOSPEC+JMP means the return address
> isn't pushed before the branch.  Thus they become part of fastop()
> rather than separate functions.  RSP+8 is only correct if it happens to
> have not pushed anything to the stack before the indirect JMP.

Yeah, I finally got there. I'll go cook up something else.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-16  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-14 11:11 [PATCH 0/6] objtool: Detect and warn about indirect calls in __nocfi functions Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-14 11:11 ` [PATCH 1/6] x86/nospec: JMP_NOSPEC Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-14 11:11 ` [PATCH 2/6] x86/kvm/emulate: Implement test_cc() in C Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-14 11:11 ` [PATCH 3/6] x86/kvm/emulate: Avoid RET for fastops Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-14 22:36   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-04-15  7:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-15 14:39       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-04-16  8:38         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-04-26 10:01           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-28 17:13             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-29 10:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-29 14:05                 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-29 14:46                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-29 17:16                     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-14 11:11 ` [PATCH 4/6] x86,hyperv: Clean up hv_do_hypercall() Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-14 11:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-14 14:06   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-04-14 14:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-21 18:27   ` Michael Kelley
2025-04-25 13:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-29 15:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-29 20:36       ` Michael Kelley
2025-04-14 11:11 ` [PATCH 5/6] x86_64,hyperv: Use direct call to hypercall-page Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-21 18:28   ` Michael Kelley
2025-04-25 14:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-25 14:32       ` Michael Kelley
2025-04-27  3:58         ` Michael Kelley
2025-04-29 15:19           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-14 11:11 ` [PATCH 6/6] objtool: Validate kCFI calls Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-14 23:43   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-04-29 16:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-29 16:18     ` Peter Zijlstra

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