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From: Roman Kisel <romank@linux.microsoft.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/7] arm64: hyperv: Use SMC to detect hypervisor presence
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 09:50:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3398a7cb-b366-49e1-ae19-155490b4e42e@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR02MB41573831866B7FC9E267D72DD4BE2@SN6PR02MB4157.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>



On 8/4/2024 8:01 PM, Michael Kelley wrote:
> From: Roman Kisel <romank@linux.microsoft.com> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2024 3:59 PM
>>
>> The arm64 Hyper-V startup path relies on ACPI to detect
>> running under a Hyper-V compatible hypervisor. That
>> doesn't work on non-ACPI systems.
>>
>> Hoist the ACPI detection logic into a separate function,
>> use the new SMC added recently to Hyper-V to use in the
>> non-ACPI case.
> 
> Wording seems slightly messed up.  Perhaps:
> 
>     Hoist the ACPI detection logic into a separate function. Then
>     use the new SMC added recently to Hyper-V in the non-ACPI
>     case.
> 
> Also, the phrase "the new SMC" seems a bit off to me.  The "Terms and
> Abbreviations" section of the SMCCC specification defines "SMC" as
> an instruction:
> 
>     Secure Monitor Call. An Arm assembler instruction that causes an
>     exception that is taken synchronously into EL3.
> 
> More precisely, I think you mean a SMC "function identifier" that is
> newly implemented by Hyper-V.  And the function identifier itself isn't
> new; it's the Hyper-V implementation that's new.
> 
> Similar comment applies in the cover letter for this patch set, and
> perhaps to the Subject line of this patch.
> 
Will fix the wording, appreciate your help with bringing this into the 
best shape possible!

>>
>> Signed-off-by: Roman Kisel <romank@linux.microsoft.com>
>> ---
>>   arch/arm64/hyperv/mshyperv.c      | 36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
>>   arch/arm64/include/asm/mshyperv.h |  5 +++++
>>   2 files changed, 36 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/hyperv/mshyperv.c b/arch/arm64/hyperv/mshyperv.c
>> index b1a4de4eee29..341f98312667 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/hyperv/mshyperv.c
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/hyperv/mshyperv.c
>> @@ -27,6 +27,34 @@ int hv_get_hypervisor_version(union hv_hypervisor_version_info *info)
>>   	return 0;
>>   }
>>
>> +static bool hyperv_detect_via_acpi(void)
>> +{
>> +	if (acpi_disabled)
>> +		return false;
>> +#if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ACPI)
>> +	/* Hypervisor ID is only available in ACPI v6+. */
>> +	if (acpi_gbl_FADT.header.revision < 6)
>> +		return false;
>> +	return strncmp((char *)&acpi_gbl_FADT.hypervisor_id, "MsHyperV", 8) == 0;
>> +#else
>> +	return false;
>> +#endif
>> +}
>> +
>> +static bool hyperv_detect_via_smc(void)
>> +{
>> +	struct arm_smccc_res res = {};
>> +
>> +	if (arm_smccc_1_1_get_conduit() != SMCCC_CONDUIT_HVC)
>> +		return false;
>> +	arm_smccc_1_1_hvc(ARM_SMCCC_VENDOR_HYP_CALL_UID_FUNC_ID, &res);
>> +
>> +	return res.a0 == ARM_SMCCC_VENDOR_HYP_UID_HYPERV_REG_0 &&
>> +		res.a1 == ARM_SMCCC_VENDOR_HYP_UID_HYPERV_REG_1 &&
>> +		res.a2 == ARM_SMCCC_VENDOR_HYP_UID_HYPERV_REG_2 &&
>> +		res.a3 == ARM_SMCCC_VENDOR_HYP_UID_HYPERV_REG_3;
>> +}
>> +
>>   static int __init hyperv_init(void)
>>   {
>>   	struct hv_get_vp_registers_output	result;
>> @@ -35,13 +63,11 @@ static int __init hyperv_init(void)
>>
>>   	/*
>>   	 * Allow for a kernel built with CONFIG_HYPERV to be running in
>> -	 * a non-Hyper-V environment, including on DT instead of ACPI.
>> +	 * a non-Hyper-V environment.
>> +	 *
>>   	 * In such cases, do nothing and return success.
>>   	 */
>> -	if (acpi_disabled)
>> -		return 0;
>> -
>> -	if (strncmp((char *)&acpi_gbl_FADT.hypervisor_id, "MsHyperV", 8))
>> +	if (!hyperv_detect_via_acpi() && !hyperv_detect_via_smc())
>>   		return 0;
>>
>>   	/* Setup the guest ID */
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/mshyperv.h
>> b/arch/arm64/include/asm/mshyperv.h
>> index a975e1a689dd..a7a3586f7cb1 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/mshyperv.h
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/mshyperv.h
>> @@ -51,4 +51,9 @@ static inline u64 hv_get_msr(unsigned int reg)
>>
>>   #include <asm-generic/mshyperv.h>
>>
>> +#define ARM_SMCCC_VENDOR_HYP_UID_HYPERV_REG_0	0x7948734d
>> +#define ARM_SMCCC_VENDOR_HYP_UID_HYPERV_REG_1	0x56726570
>> +#define ARM_SMCCC_VENDOR_HYP_UID_HYPERV_REG_2	0
>> +#define ARM_SMCCC_VENDOR_HYP_UID_HYPERV_REG_3	0
>> +
> 
> Section 6.2 of the SMCCC specification says that the "Call UID Query"
> returns a UUID. The above #defines look like an ASCII string is being
> returned. Arguably the ASCII string can be treated as a set of 128 bits
> just like a UUID, but it doesn't meet the spirit of the spec. Can Hyper-V
> be changed to return a real UUID? While the distinction probably
> won't make a material difference here, we've had problems in the past
> with Hyper-V doing slightly weird things that later caused unexpected
> trouble. Please just get it right. :-)
> 
The above values don't violate anything in the spec, and I think it 
would be hard to give an example of what can be broken in the world by 
using the above values. I do understand what you're saying when you 
mention the UIDs & the spirit of the spec. Put on the quantitative 
footing, the Shannon entropy of these values is much lower than that of 
an UID. A cursory search in the kernel tree does turn up other UIDs that 
don't look too random.

As that is implemented only in the non-release versions, hardly someone 
has taken a dependency on the specific values in their production code. 
I guess that can be changed without causing any disturbance to the 
customers, will report of any concerns though.

> Michael
> 
>>   #endif
>> --
>> 2.34.1
>>

-- 
Thank you,
Roman


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-05 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-26 22:59 [PATCH v3 0/7] arm64: hyperv: Support Virtual Trust Level Boot Roman Kisel
2024-07-26 22:59 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] arm64: hyperv: Use SMC to detect hypervisor presence Roman Kisel
2024-08-03  1:21   ` Wei Liu
2024-08-05 14:53     ` Roman Kisel
2024-08-05  3:01   ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-05 16:50     ` Roman Kisel [this message]
2024-08-05 20:30       ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-05 21:44         ` Roman Kisel
2024-08-05  3:53   ` Saurabh Singh Sengar
2024-08-05 15:17     ` Roman Kisel
2024-08-05 15:46       ` Saurabh Singh Sengar
2024-08-05 15:56         ` Roman Kisel
2024-07-26 22:59 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] Drivers: hv: Enable VTL mode for arm64 Roman Kisel
2024-08-03  1:21   ` Wei Liu
2024-08-05  3:01   ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-05  4:05     ` Saurabh Singh Sengar
2024-08-05 15:24       ` Roman Kisel
2024-08-05 19:51         ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-05 22:15           ` Roman Kisel
2024-07-26 22:59 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] Drivers: hv: Provide arch-neutral implementation of get_vtl() Roman Kisel
2024-08-03  1:21   ` Wei Liu
2024-08-05  5:45     ` Saurabh Singh Sengar
2024-08-05  3:02   ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-05 16:19     ` Roman Kisel
2024-08-05 20:13       ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-05 21:55         ` Roman Kisel
2024-07-26 22:59 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] arm64: hyperv: Boot in a Virtual Trust Level Roman Kisel
2024-08-03  1:22   ` Wei Liu
2024-08-05 14:55     ` Roman Kisel
2024-08-05  3:02   ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-05 16:20     ` Roman Kisel
2024-08-05  6:28   ` Saurabh Singh Sengar
2024-08-05 15:48     ` Roman Kisel
2024-07-26 22:59 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] dt-bindings: bus: Add Hyper-V VMBus cache coherency and IRQs Roman Kisel
2024-07-27  8:53   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-07-29 16:33     ` Roman Kisel
2024-07-26 22:59 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] Drivers: hv: vmbus: Get the IRQ number from DT Roman Kisel
2024-07-27  8:56   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-07-27  9:17     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-07-27  9:20       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-07-29 16:51       ` Roman Kisel
2024-08-05  3:03         ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-05 16:26           ` Roman Kisel
2024-07-29 16:36     ` Roman Kisel
2024-08-05  8:30   ` Saurabh Singh Sengar
2024-08-05 14:12     ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-05 15:49       ` Roman Kisel
2024-07-26 22:59 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] PCI: hv: Get vPCI MSI IRQ domain " Roman Kisel
2024-08-03  1:20   ` Wei Liu
2024-08-05 14:51     ` Roman Kisel
2024-08-05 15:59       ` Roman Kisel
2024-08-05  3:03   ` Michael Kelley
2024-08-05 16:30     ` Roman Kisel

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