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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Anirudh Rayabharam <anrayabh@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com>,
	linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 09/26] KVM: VMX: nVMX: Support TSC scaling and PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL with enlightened VMCS
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 19:49:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875yikxj6w.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YwOzxYLMeFuN23W+@google.com>

Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:

> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>> Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:
>> > But that also raises the question of whether or not KVM should honor hyperv_enabled
>> > when filtering MSRs.  Same question for nested VM-Enter.  nested_enlightened_vmentry()
>> > will "fail" without an assist page, and the guest can't set the assist page without
>> > hyperv_enabled==true, but nothing prevents the host from stuffing the assist page.
>> 
>> The case sounds more like a misbehaving VMM to me. It would probably be
>> better to fail nested_enlightened_vmentry() immediately on !hyperv_enabled.
>
> Hmm, sort of.  If KVM fails explicitly fails nested VM-Enter, then allowing the
> guest to read the VMX MSRs with the same buggy setup is odd, e.g. nested VMX is
> effectively unsupported at that point since there is nothing the guest can do to
> make nested VM-Enter succeed.  Extending the "fail VM-Enter" behavior would be to
> inject #GP on RDMSR, and at that point KVM is well into "made up architecture"
> behavior.
>
> All in all, I don't think it's worth forcing the issue, even though I do agree that
> the VMM is being weird if it's enabling KVM_CAP_HYPERV_ENLIGHTENED_VMCS but not
> advertising Hyper-V.

I keep thinking about KVM-on-KVM using Hyper-V features like eVMCS, eMSR
bitmap, 'l2' tlb flush,... when I can't sleep at night sometimes :-)

...

>> 
>> Thanks for the thorough review here and don't hesitate to speak up when
>> you think it's too much of a change to do upon queueing)
>
> Heh, this definitely snowballed beyond "fixup on queue".  Let's sort out how to
> address the filtering issue and then decide how to handle v6.
>

Yep, let's keep the snowball rolling! :-)

-- 
Vitaly


  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-22 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-02 16:07 [PATCH v5 00/26] KVM: VMX: Support updated eVMCSv1 revision + use vmcs_config for L1 VMX MSRs Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 01/26] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Expose access to debug MSRs in the partition privilege flags Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-18 15:14   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-18 15:20     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-18 15:49       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-18 15:59         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 02/26] x86/hyperv: Fix 'struct hv_enlightened_vmcs' definition Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 03/26] x86/hyperv: Update " Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-18 15:21   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-18 15:29     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-18 17:57       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-22  9:18         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-22 15:55           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-22 16:21             ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-22 17:01               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-22 17:46                 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-22 18:32                   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-23  7:33                     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-23 15:00                       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-23 15:31                         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-23 16:54                         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-23 20:16                           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-22 16:13           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-22 16:24             ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 04/26] KVM: VMX: Define VMCS-to-EVMCS conversion for the new fields Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 05/26] KVM: nVMX: Support several new fields in eVMCSv1 Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 06/26] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Cache HYPERV_CPUID_NESTED_FEATURES CPUID leaf Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 07/26] KVM: selftests: Add ENCLS_EXITING_BITMAP{,HIGH} VMCS fields Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 08/26] KVM: selftests: Switch to updated eVMCSv1 definition Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 09/26] KVM: VMX: nVMX: Support TSC scaling and PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL with enlightened VMCS Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-18 17:15   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-19  8:06     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-19 17:02       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-22  8:47         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-22 16:50           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-22 17:49             ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2022-08-18 17:19   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-19  7:42     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-19 14:49       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-19 15:07         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 10/26] KVM: selftests: Enable TSC scaling in evmcs selftest Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 11/26] KVM: VMX: Get rid of eVMCS specific VMX controls sanitization Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 12/26] KVM: VMX: Check VM_ENTRY_IA32E_MODE in setup_vmcs_config() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 13/26] KVM: VMX: Check CPU_BASED_{INTR,NMI}_WINDOW_EXITING " Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 14/26] KVM: VMX: Tweak the special handling of SECONDARY_EXEC_ENCLS_EXITING " Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 15/26] KVM: VMX: Don't toggle VM_ENTRY_IA32E_MODE for 32-bit kernels/KVM Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 16/26] KVM: VMX: Extend VMX controls macro shenanigans Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 17/26] KVM: VMX: Move CPU_BASED_CR8_{LOAD,STORE}_EXITING filtering out of setup_vmcs_config() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 18/26] KVM: VMX: Add missing VMEXIT controls to vmcs_config Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 19/26] KVM: VMX: Add missing CPU based VM execution " Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 20/26] KVM: VMX: Adjust CR3/INVPLG interception for EPT=y at runtime, not setup Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 21/26] KVM: x86: VMX: Replace some Intel model numbers with mnemonics Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 22/26] KVM: VMX: Move LOAD_IA32_PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL errata handling out of setup_vmcs_config() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-18 17:49   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-19  7:48     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 23/26] KVM: nVMX: Always set required-1 bits of pinbased_ctls to PIN_BASED_ALWAYSON_WITHOUT_TRUE_MSR Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 24/26] KVM: nVMX: Use sanitized allowed-1 bits for VMX control MSRs Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 25/26] KVM: VMX: Cache MSR_IA32_VMX_MISC in vmcs_config Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-02 16:07 ` [PATCH v5 26/26] KVM: nVMX: Use cached host MSR_IA32_VMX_MISC value for setting up nested MSR Vitaly Kuznetsov

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