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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: "Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong@intel.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Anirudh Rayabharam <anrayabh@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
	"linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org" <linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Christopherson,, Sean" <seanjc@google.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 04/14] KVM: VMX: Extend VMX controls macro shenanigans
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 10:14:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o7yash3z.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BL0PR11MB3042FA68F1EA02B5300E01168ABB9@BL0PR11MB3042.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

"Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong@intel.com> writes:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 6:38 PM
>> To: Dong, Eddie <eddie.dong@intel.com>
>> Cc: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>; kvm@vger.kernel.org; Paolo
>> Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>; Anirudh Rayabharam
>> <anrayabh@linux.microsoft.com>; Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>;
>> Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>; Maxim Levitsky
>> <mlevitsk@redhat.com>; linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org; linux-
>> kernel@vger.kernel.org
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/14] KVM: VMX: Extend VMX controls macro
>> shenanigans
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, Dong, Eddie wrote:
>> > >  static inline void lname##_controls_clearbit(struct vcpu_vmx *vmx, u##bits
>> > > val)	\
>> > >  {
>> > > 	\
>> > > +	BUILD_BUG_ON(!(val & (KVM_REQ_VMX_##uname |
>> > > KVM_OPT_VMX_##uname)));	\
>> > >  	lname##_controls_set(vmx, lname##_controls_get(vmx) & ~val);
>> > > 	\
>> > >  }
>> >
>> > With this, will it be safer if we present L1 CTRL MSRs with the bits
>> > KVM really uses? Do I miss something?
>> 
>> KVM will still allow L1 to use features/controls that KVM itself doesn't use, but
>> exposing features/controls that KVM doesn't use will require a more explicit
>> "override" of sorts, e.g. to prevent advertising features that are supported in
>> hardware, known to KVM, but disabled for whatever reason, e.g. a CPU bug,
>> eVMCS incompatibility, module param, etc...
> Mmm, that is fine too.
> But, do we consider the potential need of migration for a L1 VMM ?
> Normally the VM can be configured to be as hardware neutral for better
> compatibility, or exposing as close to hardware feature as possible
> for performance.
> For nested features, I thought we didn't support migration if L1 VMM
> yet, so exposing hardware capability by default is fine at moment. We
> may revisit one day in future if we need to support migration.

Not sure I got your point, nested state migration is fully supported in
KVM. When migrating a guest, KVM makes sure the list of features exposed
in VMX control MSRs remain the same. This may not be the case if you use
something like "-cpu host" in QEMU but the problems are not specific to
nesting.

>  This MACRO do help anyway 😊
>
>> 
>> The intent of this BUILD_BUG_ON() is to detect KVM usage of bits that aren't
>> enabled by default, i.e. to lower the probability that a control gets used by KVM
>> but isn't exposed to L1 because it's a dynamically enabled control.

-- 
Vitaly


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-30  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-27 16:04 [PATCH 00/14] KVM: nVMX: Use vmcs_config for setting up nested VMX MSRs Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 01/14] KVM: VMX: Check VM_ENTRY_IA32E_MODE in setup_vmcs_config() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 02/14] KVM: VMX: Check CPU_BASED_{INTR,NMI}_WINDOW_EXITING " Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 03/14] KVM: VMX: Tweak the special handling of SECONDARY_EXEC_ENCLS_EXITING " Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 04/14] KVM: VMX: Extend VMX controls macro shenanigans Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 21:36   ` Dong, Eddie
2022-06-28  1:38     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-29 20:55       ` Dong, Eddie
2022-06-30  8:14         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2022-06-28 12:02     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 05/14] KVM: VMX: Move CPU_BASED_CR8_{LOAD,STORE}_EXITING filtering out of setup_vmcs_config() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 06/14] KVM: VMX: Add missing VMEXIT controls to vmcs_config Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 07/14] KVM: VMX: Add missing VMENTRY " Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 08/14] KVM: VMX: Add missing CPU based VM execution " Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 09/14] KVM: VMX: Clear controls obsoleted by EPT at runtime, not setup Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 10/14] KVM: nVMX: Use sanitized allowed-1 bits for VMX control MSRs Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 11/14] KVM: VMX: Store required-1 VMX controls in vmcs_config Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 12/14] KVM: nVMX: Use sanitized required-1 bits for VMX control MSRs Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 13/14] KVM: VMX: Cache MSR_IA32_VMX_MISC in vmcs_config Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 16:04 ` [PATCH 14/14] KVM: nVMX: Use cached host MSR_IA32_VMX_MISC value for setting up nested MSR Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-27 17:50 ` [PATCH 00/14] KVM: nVMX: Use vmcs_config for setting up nested VMX MSRs Jim Mattson
2022-06-28 14:04   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-28 15:28     ` Jim Mattson
2022-06-28 16:01       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-28 17:11         ` Jim Mattson
2022-06-29  9:06           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-29 22:27             ` Jim Mattson
2022-07-06 22:30               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-06-28  9:08 ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-06-28 10:04   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-28 10:08     ` Maxim Levitsky

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