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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>
Cc: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Souradeep Chakrabarti <schakrabarti@microsoft.com>,
	souradeep chakrabarti <schakrabarti@linux.microsoft.com>,
	KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com>,
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	Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>,
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH V4 net] net: mana: Fix MANA VF unload when host is unresponsive
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 15:04:04 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZKxIFK2nQqV9AvIA@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH7PR21MB311670231963DE8661C2F178CA2CA@PH7PR21MB3116.namprd21.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 01:54:35PM +0000, Haiyang Zhang wrote:

> > This waiting loop is needed to let the pending Tx packets be sent. If
> > they weren't sent in 1 second, it most likely makes no sense already
> > whether they will be sent at all or not -- the destination host won't
> > wait for them for so long.
> > You say that it may happen only in case of HW issue. If so, I assume you
> > need to fix it some way, e.g. do a HW reset or so? If so, why bother
> > waiting for Tx completions if Tx is hung? You free all skbs later either
> > way, so there are no leaks.
> 
> At that point, we don't actually care if the pending packets are sent or not. 
> But if we free the queues too soon, and the HW is slow for unexpected 
> reasons, a delayed completion notice will DMA into the freed memory and 
> cause corruption. That's why we have a longer waiting time.

Aieiiie that is a horrible HW design to not have a strong fence of DMA.

"just wait and hope the HW doesn't UAF the kernel with DMA" is really
awful.

Jason

      reply	other threads:[~2023-07-10 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-03  8:49 [PATCH V4 net] net: mana: Fix MANA VF unload when host is unresponsive souradeep chakrabarti
2023-07-03 15:51 ` Haiyang Zhang
2023-07-03 16:47 ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-03 19:55   ` [EXTERNAL] " Souradeep Chakrabarti
2023-07-04  6:59     ` Paolo Abeni
2023-07-04 13:42     ` Haiyang Zhang
2023-07-05 14:35     ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-06 10:41       ` Souradeep Chakrabarti
2023-07-06 11:39         ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-06 11:43           ` Souradeep Chakrabarti
2023-07-06 11:48             ` Alexander Lobakin
2023-07-06 13:54               ` Haiyang Zhang
2023-07-10 18:04                 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]

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