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From: Greg KH <greg-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: David Brownell <david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: i2c-GZX6beZjE8VD60Wz+7aTrA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 14:04:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080108220445.GB3873@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801081344.45544.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 01:44:45PM -0800, David Brownell wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > > > 			device_for_each_child() relies on a 
> > > > klist_iter, and the documentation of klist_next mentions increasing the
> > > > reference count of the "active" list item. I would guess that you can't
> > > > remove a list item while its reference count is not zero, and that
> > > > would explain the lockup. The original code used list_for_each_safe(),
> > > > which explicitly allows the removal of the items while walking the list.
> > > > 
> > > > OTOH the header comment of lib/klist.c says:
> > > > 
> > > > ?*??The entire point is to provide an interface for iterating over a list
> > > > ?*??that is safe and allows for modification of the list during the
> > > > ?*??iteration (e.g. insertion and removal), including modification of the
> > > > ?*??current node on the list.
> > > >
> > > > So it is supposed to work somehow...
> > > 
> > > Yeah, but then again ... the i2c stack does that oddball stuff with
> > > complete(&client->released) for legacy drivers, too.  That's always
> > > been contrary to what the driver model expects, and I never quite
> > > bothered to sort out the issues.  Maybe this is one of them (sigh).
> > 
> > I see. I doubt I'll be of much help, as I could never figure out what
> > this completion stuff was for in the first place.
> 
> In which case I'm guessing it's stuff Greg did way back in the day.
> I cc'd him in hope that he can find time to comment on that ...

Ick, sorry about that mess :(

> My understanding is that it was written early in sysfs conversions
> to help ensure sysfs wasn't keeping an open handle on the device.
> However, that early scheme proved to be quite error prone and now
> things are set up differently.  There was a particularly annoying
> class of problem with module removal.  Devices allocated by a driver
> needed to be freed by that driver, which implies not unloading any
> driver's module until device nodes it had allocated were freed.

Yes, that should not be used anymore, and I thought we had removed it
for some reason.  I guess I was just wishing it were so...

> The simple way around that restriction involves never having modules
> allocate such devices ... clearly not easy for legacy I2C drivers.
> Another way around it was to synchronize driver removal with the
> cleanup of those devices.  And that's what the current I2C stack is
> (still) doing for legacy drivers, with that completion logic.
> 
> - Dave
> 
> p.s. Greg, for context:  there are two patches in Jean's I2C queue
>      to remove some redundant I2C lists, in favor of using versions
>      maintained by i2c-core.  $SUBJECT relates to a patch removing
>      a third redundancy:  i2c_adapter.clients and i2c_client.list,
>      plus (the original problem) the lock for that list.

That sounds like a good idea, if the above race doesn't happen :)

Anything I can do to help out?

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-08 22:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20071216052308.A0FB11668D7@adsl-69-226-248-13.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net>
     [not found] ` <20071216052308.A0FB11668D7-ZcXrCSuhvln6VZ3dlLfH/g4gEjPzgfUyLrfjE7I9kuVHxeISYlDBzl6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-27 20:58   ` [patch 2.6.24-rc5-git] add i2c_new_dummy() utility Byron Bradley
     [not found]     ` <57e2b00712271258l6ea661ai2bfd6b9e099c71be-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-27 21:53       ` David Brownell
     [not found]         ` <200712271353.05857.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-27 22:09           ` Byron Bradley
     [not found]             ` <57e2b00712271409n6c98f76o45116cd92b01f396-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-27 23:06               ` David Brownell
     [not found]                 ` <200712271506.43069.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-27 23:37                   ` Byron Bradley
2007-12-27 23:59                   ` David Brownell
     [not found] ` <200712281230.17840.david-b@pacbell.net>
     [not found]   ` <57e2b00712281645y70f6ec74s57945dc53f113ec8@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <57e2b00712281645y70f6ec74s57945dc53f113ec8-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-30  3:05       ` David Brownell
     [not found]         ` <200712291905.15160.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-04 22:16           ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]             ` <20080104231633.135f2875-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-04 23:48               ` David Brownell
     [not found]                 ` <200801041548.54825.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-06  9:57                   ` Jean Delvare
2008-01-06 11:23           ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
     [not found]             ` <20080106122356.78556b8a-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-06 19:30               ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch David Brownell
     [not found]                 ` <200801061130.31774.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 14:18                   ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
     [not found]                     ` <20080108151817.35e05c6c-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 16:20                       ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
     [not found]                         ` <20080108172001.33de6afc-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 19:12                           ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch David Brownell
     [not found]                             ` <200801081112.46972.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 20:50                               ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
     [not found]                                 ` <20080108215042.534e32fa-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 21:44                                   ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch David Brownell
     [not found]                                     ` <200801081344.45544.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 22:04                                       ` Greg KH [this message]
     [not found]                                         ` <20080108220445.GB3873-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 22:27                                           ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch David Brownell
2008-01-09 13:29                                       ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
     [not found]                                         ` <20080109142906.23a55f5f-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 16:19                                           ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
     [not found]                                             ` <20080109171934.4f894bdc-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 21:21                                               ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch David Brownell
     [not found]                                                 ` <200801091321.29212.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10 13:31                                                   ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
     [not found]                                                     ` <20080110143105.456ddaf0-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-14 22:20                                                       ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch David Brownell
     [not found]                                                         ` <200801141420.49274.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-17 22:02                                                           ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
2008-01-18 10:14                                                           ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
     [not found]                                                             ` <20080118111401.7ffdccc5-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-18 10:30                                                               ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch David Brownell
2008-01-14 22:42                                                       ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch David Brownell
2008-01-17 19:35                                                   ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch David Brownell
     [not found]                                                     ` <200801171135.45797.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-17 19:59                                                       ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch David Brownell
     [not found]                                                         ` <200801171159.00291.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-18  9:32                                                           ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
     [not found]                                                             ` <20080118103209.4b92ac76-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-18 10:16                                                               ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch David Brownell
     [not found]                                                                 ` <200801180216.22363.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-18 12:10                                                                   ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
2008-01-08 18:52                       ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch David Brownell
     [not found]                         ` <200801081052.31413.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 19:57                           ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
2008-01-09 16:09                       ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
2008-01-06 19:43               ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch David Brownell
     [not found]                 ` <200801061143.34020.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-08 14:21                   ` i2c-remove-redundant-i2c_client-list.patch Jean Delvare
2008-01-17 22:24           ` [patch 2.6.24-rc5-git] add i2c_new_dummy() utility David Brownell

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