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From: David Brownell <david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Trent Piepho <xyzzy-zY4eFNvK5D+xbKUeIHjxjQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux I2C <i2c-GZX6beZjE8VD60Wz+7aTrA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] i2c: Introduce i2c listeners
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:27:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200806041727.51746.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0806041638080.10290-13q4cmjDBaTP3RPoUHIrnuTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>

On Wednesday 04 June 2008, Trent Piepho wrote:
> Couldn't you say the probe function is called on a potential device?  The
> probe function can return -ENODEV, in which can other driver's probes get
> called, and it's perfectly ok if no driver binds to it.
> 
> The way PCI works, is that when a new pci bus is created, each address is
> probed

... by config space accessors which all PCI devices support.


> and a device is created if anything responds.  The generic bus code 
> tries to match each device to a driver or drivers

... using a formally managed set of product identifiers.


>	 and calls those drivers' 
> probe functions.  The drivers don't have to claim the device in the probe
> function.  The bus code handles all the cases of a driver or bus getting
> added or removed in various orders.
> 
> So why can't I2C do this too?

No such product identifiers, and in general no way to tell
what's sitting at a given address.  And in fact, there's no
sure way to tell if a device is present there, since when
an I2C device is busy, it's not required to ack its address.



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-05  0:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-04 18:13 [PATCH 0/4] i2c: Introduce i2c listeners Jean Delvare
     [not found] ` <20080604201334.19636f30-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-04 18:18   ` [PATCH 1/4] " Jean Delvare
2008-06-04 18:31   ` [PATCH 2/4] i2c: Convert the lm90 driver to a new-style i2c driver Jean Delvare
2008-06-04 18:33   ` [PATCH 3/4] i2c: Use i2c_listener in driver f75375s Jean Delvare
     [not found]     ` <20080604203322.472f8653-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05  8:33       ` Riku Voipio
     [not found]         ` <4847A4E2.9040406-WgUW+8SLYMv1KXRcyAk9cg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05  9:06           ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]             ` <20080605110659.3456fbe4-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-06 10:21               ` Riku Voipio
     [not found]                 ` <48490FA3.8020702-WgUW+8SLYMv1KXRcyAk9cg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-06 11:38                   ` Jean Delvare
2008-06-04 18:35   ` [PATCH 4/4] i2c: Use i2c_listener in driver lm75 Jean Delvare
2008-06-04 18:55   ` [PATCH 0/4] i2c: Introduce i2c listeners Jon Smirl
     [not found]     ` <9e4733910806041155n7551ac74lf29c8a32163ec09a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-04 19:28       ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]         ` <9e4733910806041228i330e145q439d3ee43494f4c4-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-04 21:33           ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]             ` <20080604233335.13459512-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-04 23:11               ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                 ` <9e4733910806041611l41832e07p4f55424be0ef5ea0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05  0:10                   ` David Brownell
     [not found]                     ` <200806041710.59338.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05  0:42                       ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                         ` <9e4733910806041742va67401en608c8c4b8c4c11b9-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05  2:21                           ` David Brownell
     [not found]                             ` <200806041921.26293.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05  4:04                               ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                 ` <9e4733910806042104l70cf8a30sc6329b1c3016c879-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05  8:18                                   ` David Brownell
     [not found]                                     ` <200806050118.23706.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05 14:55                                       ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                         ` <9e4733910806050755n3835d20xfc4d018c2222d5d3-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05 17:00                                           ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]                                             ` <20080605190034.16f06604-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05 17:34                                               ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]                                                 ` <9e4733910806051034k2e40082focaaa03b124fcd4ad-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05 18:29                                                   ` Jean Delvare
2008-06-05  8:49                                   ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]                                     ` <20080605104914.2dd622b2-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05 14:30                                       ` Jon Smirl
2008-06-05  8:38                           ` Jean Delvare
2008-06-05  9:05                   ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]                     ` <20080605110502.76f0f606-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05 14:59                       ` Jon Smirl
2008-06-05  0:03               ` Trent Piepho
     [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0806041638080.10290-13q4cmjDBaTP3RPoUHIrnuTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05  0:27                   ` David Brownell [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <200806041727.51746.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05  0:40                       ` Trent Piepho
     [not found]                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0806041731250.10290-13q4cmjDBaTP3RPoUHIrnuTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05  2:14                           ` David Brownell
     [not found]                             ` <200806041914.27291.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05  7:08                               ` Trent Piepho
     [not found]                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0806042349251.10290-13q4cmjDBaTP3RPoUHIrnuTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-05  8:15                                   ` David Brownell
2008-06-05  8:16                           ` Jean Delvare
2008-06-05  0:45                       ` Jon Smirl
2008-06-04 21:12       ` Jean Delvare
2008-06-06  2:47   ` David Brownell

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