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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jean Delvare <khali-PUYAD+kWke1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	pm list
	<linux-pm-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Brown
	<broonie-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux I2C <linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH] i2c: Use generic subsystem-level power management callbacks
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:52:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201003142352.50692.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1003141620540.1752-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>

On Sunday 14 March 2010, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > > You know, maybe we should allow bus types to use both the old and new
> > > interfaces.  It would make life easier for other subsystems in addition
> > > to i2c.
> > > 
> > > This doesn't mean that the core would end up calling two sets of
> > > suspend routines.  If the bus type uses legacy routines then all the
> > > non-runtime entries in the pm_ops structure would be empty.
> > > 
> > > The changes to the PM core necessary to do this are quite small.
> > 
> > Not really.  The detection that the particular callback is not present happens
> > in pm_op(), while the decision which framework to use is made at the
> > device_[suspend|resume]() level.
> 
> All you have to do is change the "else if" lines in
> device_[suspend|resume]() to "if".

Then, if a bus type implements both "new" and "old" callbacks, we'll end up
calling both.  Not nice.

> > > Does it seem like a reasonable thing to do?
> > 
> > Well, if someone spends time on implementing new callbacks for a bus type,
> > writing them in such a way that they will call the "legacy" callbacks from
> > drivers if necessary is not really a big deal IMO.
> 
> Sure.  But suppose you _don't_ want to spend the time implementing new
> callbacks to replace the existing legacy suspend and resume methods,
> whereas you _do_ want to implement runtime PM.  Runtime PM forces the
> bus type to have a pm_ops member,

Which is very much on purpose, because the legacy suspend and resume have no
idea about the runtime stuff.

> which as you point out, will prevent the legacy methods from being called.

Yes, that's intentional.

That said, I think we might modify the generic callbacks in generic_ops.c to
call the drivers' legacy callbacks if the "new" ones are not defined.

Rafael

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-14 22:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-13 21:04 [PATCH] i2c: Use generic subsystem-level power management callbacks Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] ` <201003132204.30905.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-13 21:34   ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1003131627270.19476-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-14 19:58       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]         ` <201003142058.45981.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-14 20:26           ` Alan Stern
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1003141620540.1752-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-14 22:52               ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <201003142352.50692.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15  1:28                   ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1003142117200.7108-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15 19:34                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                         ` <201003152034.12195.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15 20:38                           ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1003151630370.1332-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15 22:06                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-19 22:44   ` [PATCH] i2c: Fix bus-level " Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]     ` <201003192344.09000.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25  8:57       ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]         ` <20100325095720.0b115056-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25  9:28           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]             ` <20100325092802.GA27729-HF5t3jzXg/6ND3a5+9QAFujbO/Zr0HzV@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 20:16               ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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