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From: Mark Brown <broonie-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
To: Jean Delvare <khali-PUYAD+kWke1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-qWit8jRvyhVmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>,
	Wolfram Sang <w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	kernel-janitors-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab
	<mchehab-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-media-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/24] media/video: fix dangling pointers
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:14:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100321141417.GA19626@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100321144655.4747fd2a-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 02:46:55PM +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:02:49 +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote:

> > I feel I am missing something here. Why does clientdata have to be set to
> > NULL when we are tearing down the device anyway?

> We're not tearing down the device, that's the point. We are only
> unbinding it from its driver. The device itself survives the operation.

That's the subsystem point of view, not the driver point of view.  As
far as the driver is concerned the device appears when probe() is called
and vanishes after remove() has completed, any management the subsystem
does in between is up to it.

> 1* It is good practice to have memory freed not too far from where it
> was allocated, otherwise there is always a risk of unmatched pairs. In
> this regard, it seems preferable to let each i2c driver kfree the
> device memory it kalloc'd, be it in probe() or remove().

I agree with this.  There are also some use cases where the device data
is actually static (eg, a generic description of the device or a
reference to some other shared resource rather than per device allocated
data).

> 2* References to allocated memory should be dropped before that memory
> is freed. This means that we want to call i2c_set_clientdata(c, NULL)
> before kfree(d). As a corollary, we can't do the former in i2c-core and
> the later in device drivers.

This is where the mismatch between the subsystem view of the device
lifetime and the driver view of the device lifetime comes into play.
For the driver once the device is unregistered the device no longer
exists - if the driver tries to work with the device it's buggy.  This
means that to the driver returning from the remove() function is
dropping the reference to the data and there's no reason for the driver
to take any other action.

The device may hang around after the remove() has happened, but if the
device driver knows or cares about it then it's doing something wrong.
Similarly on probe() we can't assme anything about the pointer since
even if we saw the device before we can't guarantee that some other
driver didn't do so as well.  The situation is similar to that with
kfree() - we don't memset() data we're freeing with that, even though it
might contain pointers to other things.

> So we are in the difficult situation where we can't do both in i2c-core
> because that violates point 1 above, we can't do half in i2c-core and
> half in device drivers because this violates point 2 above, so we fall
> back to doing both in device drivers, which doesn't violate any point
> but duplicates the code all around.

Personally I'd much rather just not bother setting the driver data in
the removal path, it seems unneeded.  I had assumed that the subsystem
code cared for some reason when I saw the patch series.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-21 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-20 14:12 i2c-drivers: Remove dangling pointers Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12 ` [PATCH 04/24] gpio: fix " Wolfram Sang
     [not found]   ` <1269094385-16114-5-git-send-email-w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-30 12:31     ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12 ` [PATCH 06/24] input/keyboard: " Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 19:20   ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]     ` <20100320192007.GA28402-WlK9ik9hQGAhIp7JRqBPierSzoNAToWh@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-21  1:59       ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-30 12:35       ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12 ` [PATCH 08/24] leds: " Wolfram Sang
     [not found]   ` <1269094385-16114-9-git-send-email-w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-30 12:36     ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12 ` [PATCH 09/24] macintosh: " Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12 ` [PATCH 10/24] media/radio: " Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12 ` [PATCH 12/24] media/video: " Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 22:02   ` Hans Verkuil
     [not found]     ` <201003202302.49526.hverkuil-qWit8jRvyhVmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-21 11:31       ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-21 13:46       ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]         ` <20100321144655.4747fd2a-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-21 14:14           ` Mark Brown [this message]
2010-03-21 16:09             ` Hans Verkuil
     [not found]               ` <201003211709.56319.hverkuil-qWit8jRvyhVmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-22 20:33                 ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-22 21:51                   ` Mark Brown
2010-03-23  0:35                   ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-30 12:39                 ` Wolfram Sang
2010-04-01  8:32                   ` Hans Verkuil
2010-03-22 20:36           ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-20 14:12 ` [PATCH 13/24] mfd: " Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 17:22   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]     ` <20100320172241.GD1549-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-20 20:25       ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-21  2:09     ` Wolfram Sang
     [not found]   ` <1269094385-16114-14-git-send-email-w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-25 10:41     ` Samuel Ortiz
     [not found]       ` <20100325104137.GA3720-jcdQHdrhKHMdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-30 12:41         ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12 ` [PATCH 14/24] misc: " Wolfram Sang
     [not found]   ` <1269094385-16114-15-git-send-email-w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-30 12:44     ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12 ` [PATCH 15/24] misc/eeprom: " Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12 ` [PATCH 18/24] rtc: " Wolfram Sang
     [not found]   ` <1269094385-16114-19-git-send-email-w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-30 12:49     ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:13 ` [PATCH 20/24] staging/go7007: " Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:13 ` [PATCH 21/24] staging/iio/adc: " Wolfram Sang
     [not found]   ` <1269094385-16114-22-git-send-email-w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-22 12:41     ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-03-20 14:13 ` [PATCH 23/24] video/matrox: " Wolfram Sang
     [not found]   ` <1269094385-16114-24-git-send-email-w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-05 14:04     ` James Simmons
2010-03-20 14:13 ` [PATCH 24/24] w1/masters: " Wolfram Sang
     [not found] ` <1269094385-16114-1-git-send-email-w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-20 14:12   ` [PATCH 01/24] mtd/maps/pismo: remove dangling pointer and a leak Wolfram Sang
     [not found]     ` <1269094385-16114-2-git-send-email-w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-20 14:57       ` Russell King
     [not found]         ` <20100320145729.GA5399-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-20 15:31           ` Wolfram Sang
     [not found]             ` <20100320153146.GB5515-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-20 15:41               ` Russell King
     [not found]                 ` <20100320154113.GB14470-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-21  8:30                   ` David Woodhouse
2010-03-30 12:26                     ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12   ` [PATCH 02/24] power/ds2782: really clear i2c_clientdata on exit Wolfram Sang
     [not found]     ` <1269094385-16114-3-git-send-email-w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-20 21:53       ` Ryan Mallon
2010-03-22 17:08       ` Anton Vorontsov
     [not found]         ` <20100322170810.GA30325-wnGakbxT3iijyJ0x5qLZdcN33GVbZNy3@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-30 12:28           ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12   ` [PATCH 03/24] usb/otg/isp1301_omap: Fix dangling pointer Wolfram Sang
     [not found]     ` <1269094385-16114-4-git-send-email-w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-20 20:09       ` Felipe Balbi
2010-03-30 12:30         ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12   ` [PATCH 05/24] hwmon: fix dangling pointers Wolfram Sang
     [not found]     ` <1269094385-16114-6-git-send-email-w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-29 14:30       ` Jean Delvare
2010-03-20 14:12   ` [PATCH 07/24] input/touchscreen: " Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12   ` [PATCH 11/24] media/radio/si470x: " Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12   ` [PATCH 16/24] power: " Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:12   ` [PATCH 17/24] regulator: " Wolfram Sang
     [not found]     ` <1269094385-16114-18-git-send-email-w.sang-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-20 17:23       ` Mark Brown
2010-03-22 19:49     ` Liam Girdwood
2010-03-30 12:47       ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:13   ` [PATCH 19/24] staging/dream: " Wolfram Sang
2010-03-20 14:13   ` [PATCH 22/24] staging/iio/light: " Wolfram Sang
2010-03-22 12:41     ` Jonathan Cameron
2010-04-05 22:59   ` i2c-drivers: Remove " Ben Dooks
     [not found]     ` <20100405225925.GC32401-elnMNo+KYs3pIgCt6eIbzw@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-06  0:06       ` Wolfram Sang

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