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From: Mark Brown <broonie-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Rabin Vincent <rabin-66gdRtMMWGc@public.gmane.org>,
	rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org,
	linux-pm-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] pm_runtime_suspended() and non-pm_runtime-using (i2c) drivers
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 23:19:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101214231924.GA26411@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1012141754190.2087-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 06:03:06PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Dec 2010, Mark Brown wrote:

> > When I've been working with the runtime PM subsystem before I've thought
> > that it might be nice to have a specific RPM_UNINITIAZLIZED state which
> > would generally get out of the way.  It might be a bit clearer than the

> That's an interesting suggestion.  In general the PM core can't tell 
> what power state a device is really in when it is first discovered and 
> registered.

> I don't know if it would really solve your problem, though.  What we 
> really need is a better way to tell when a device shouldn't prevent its 
> parent from suspending.  Something like: If a device has no driver and 
> no children, it should automatically be put in the RPM_SUSPENDED state.

Yes, there'd need to be a bunch of code implementing behaviours that
look like what you suggest above and I'm not clear if it'd be worth the
hassle of implementing it - like I say, I'm not generally comfortable
enough with my understanding in this area to have a strong opinion on
the best approach.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-12-14 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-14 15:54 pm_runtime_suspended() and non-pm_runtime-using (i2c) drivers Rabin Vincent
     [not found] ` <AANLkTik7D2mDJN=BaasvLa4xx0fQBgjHREqQB06aD9JU-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 16:16   ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1012141114150.2087-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 16:40       ` Mark Brown
     [not found]         ` <20101214164059.GE5723-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 17:44           ` Alan Stern
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1012141236530.2087-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 18:09               ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                 ` <20101214180941.GB13644-HF5t3jzXg/6ND3a5+9QAFujbO/Zr0HzV@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 19:10                   ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1012141406500.2087-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 22:00                       ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                         ` <20101214220050.GB25106-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 23:03                           ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1012141754190.2087-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 23:19                               ` Mark Brown [this message]
2010-12-15  0:15                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-12-14 23:28       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]         ` <201012150028.07938.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-14 23:57           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]             ` <201012150057.31237.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-15  0:19               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                 ` <201012150119.59801.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-15 20:38                   ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1012151530590.2171-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-15 22:01                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                         ` <201012152301.18700.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-15 23:39                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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