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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	sameo-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	hthebaud-Umy9UjvE/gtWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	matti.j.aaltonen-xNZwKgViW5gAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NFC: Driver for Inside Secure MicroRead NFC chip
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:04:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201103291404.39023.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110329125931.21a69776-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>

On Tuesday 29 March 2011, Alan Cox wrote:
> > The difference between the two is where you keep the common
> > NFC logic:
> 
> I think I'd disagree on that
> > 
> > If you have a character device, it will be like a serial port
> > connecting to a modem. Any higher-level protocols live in the
> > user space and are limited to a single application then, which
> > is required to have appropriate priviledges to open the device.
> 
> A socket is just an API just as a file, you can put the stack in either
> place in either case.

Fair enough. Obviously the character device that we've been talking
about here does not include the stack, but that would be another option.

As you say, using a socket with a dumb interface is also possible,
but that sounds to me like a combination of all the disadvantages.

> > character device is its simplicity, so that would be preferred
> > if you only expect a very small set of possible applications
> > for this.
> 
> NFC is not particularly performance dependant so having a lot of the
> stack in a daemon isn't really going to hurt anything too much on a
> client embedded device/phone.
> 
> The bigger question is probably what it needs to look like the other end
> - ie the server side embedded devices doing transactions.

I was under the impression that NFC was peer-to-peer, so the driver
would already be handling both sides potentially.

	Arnd

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-29 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-18 10:40 [PATCH] NFC: Driver for Inside Secure MicroRead NFC chip Waldemar Rymarkiewicz
     [not found] ` <1300444824-13713-1-git-send-email-waldemar.rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-18 10:40   ` Waldemar Rymarkiewicz
     [not found]     ` <1300444824-13713-2-git-send-email-waldemar.rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-18 11:03       ` Alan Cox
     [not found]         ` <20110318110348.728f6036-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-18 15:00           ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]             ` <99B09243E1A5DA4898CDD8B7001114481085881963-TzrFtyi11j7rLp5S7fUuNkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-18 15:05               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-18 15:12               ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                 ` <20110318151219.7aedc765-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-18 15:15                   ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
2011-03-18 11:49       ` Wolfram Sang
     [not found]         ` <20110318114931.GA2155-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-18 15:08           ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]             ` <99B09243E1A5DA4898CDD8B700111448108588196C-TzrFtyi11j7rLp5S7fUuNkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-18 15:31               ` Mark Brown
2011-03-18 16:43           ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
2011-03-18 12:19       ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` <201103181319.54191.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-18 12:51           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]             ` <20110318125150.GD27129-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-18 14:20               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-25 14:26         ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-03-29  8:00           ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]             ` <99B09243E1A5DA4898CDD8B7001114481085E2375D-TzrFtyi11j7rLp5S7fUuNkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-29 11:05               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-29 11:59                 ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                   ` <20110329125931.21a69776-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-29 12:04                     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
     [not found]                       ` <201103291404.39023.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-29 12:23                         ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                           ` <20110329132305.7aa065a1-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-29 13:22                             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                 ` <201103291305.02293.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-31 14:16                   ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-03-31 14:42                     ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]                       ` <99B09243E1A5DA4898CDD8B7001114481085F0FE5A-TzrFtyi11j7rLp5S7fUuNkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-31 14:49                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-31 15:09                         ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-03-31 15:24                           ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]                             ` <99B09243E1A5DA4898CDD8B7001114481085F0FE7C-TzrFtyi11j7rLp5S7fUuNkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-31 15:30                               ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-04-01 18:19                                 ` Aloisio Almeida
     [not found]                                   ` <AANLkTikjTAFrhS7_P+KJ-r-33K6fW2+63OnLhjXE-u0k-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-01 19:43                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-06 20:22                                 ` Pavan Savoy
     [not found]                                   ` <BANLkTimsZeqvSWj+kKWLSmFOQc70KWodcw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-06 20:30                                     ` Pavan Savoy
     [not found]                                       ` <BANLkTim9tyZXhLUxzHL2K-nWtujsJTB0fw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-06 20:46                                         ` Aloisio Almeida
2011-06-06 20:50                                     ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-03-18 15:50       ` Randy Dunlap
     [not found]         ` <20110318085033.9bea6dc9.rdunlap-/UHa2rfvQTnk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-18 15:57           ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
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2011-03-10 14:20 Waldemar Rymarkiewicz
     [not found] ` <1299766808-2535-1-git-send-email-waldemar.rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-10 13:52   ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]     ` <201103101452.54862.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-10 14:45       ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
2011-03-10 16:20         ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]           ` <201103101720.53782.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 14:59             ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]               ` <99B09243E1A5DA4898CDD8B7001114481082FAE10A-TzrFtyi11j7rLp5S7fUuNkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 15:34                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                   ` <201103141634.10865.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 15:45                     ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]                       ` <99B09243E1A5DA4898CDD8B7001114481082FAE15A-TzrFtyi11j7rLp5S7fUuNkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 16:00                         ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                           ` <201103141700.26457.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 16:15                             ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
2011-03-14 17:01                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-15  8:37                                 ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz
     [not found]                                   ` <99B09243E1A5DA4898CDD8B7001114481082FAE39E-TzrFtyi11j7rLp5S7fUuNkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-15  9:06                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-17 12:58           ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz
     [not found]             ` <99B09243E1A5DA4898CDD8B70011144810830AB119-TzrFtyi11j7rLp5S7fUuNkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-17 13:07               ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                 ` <201103171407.58164.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-17 13:38                   ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]                     ` <99B09243E1A5DA4898CDD8B70011144810830AB18B-TzrFtyi11j7rLp5S7fUuNkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-17 13:54                       ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                         ` <201103171454.42838.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-17 13:58                           ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
2011-03-15 10:01     ` Samuel Ortiz
     [not found]       ` <loom.20110315T104753-187-eS7Uydv5nfjZ+VzJOa5vwg@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-15 12:59         ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]           ` <99B09243E1A5DA4898CDD8B70011144810830AA4BD-TzrFtyi11j7rLp5S7fUuNkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-15 14:16             ` Samuel Ortiz
2011-03-15 14:29               ` Waldemar.Rymarkiewicz-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w

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