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From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Wolfram Sang <wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	boris-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: I2C adapters protocol deviation
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 10:15:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140407081502.GC3926@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53418C61.6020604-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

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On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 07:18:25PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 04/06/2014 05:37 PM, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 04:01:52PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 04/04/2014 02:26 PM, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> So what we really have is a single slave i2c host sort of. At least
> >>>> we could model it like that. The host could be told which address to
> >>>> listen to (and which single i2c write to do to init the pmic) through
> >>>> devicetree and then all the differences would be hidden in the host
> >>>> driver, ie we would check the slave-address and if it is not the single
> >>>> one we support, we just return the appropriate error for a device not
> >>>> acking, and everything should work as a regular i2c host which
> >>>> only supports i2c_smbus_read_byte and i2c_smbus_write_byte.
> >>>
> >>> I'd think we need a new message flag like I2C_M_PUSHPULL which says that
> >>> this message has only the direction bit instead of the address and needs
> >>> a parity bit afterwards. In addition to that, we need a new
> >>> functionality flag I2C_FUNC_PUSHPULL which means the host driver can
> >>> handle those messages. So, the PMIC driver could query support for
> >>> I2C_FUNC_SMBUS_BYTE | I2C_FUNC_PUSHPULL and if successful send messages
> >>> using smbus functions with the new flag set.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the input this sounds good, I guess we'll give this a shot
> >> when we get around to coding up support for the p2wi block in the A31.
> > 
> > On a second thought, maybe more granularity is better. Like using
> > I2C_M_DROP_ADDRESS and I2C_M_ADD_PARITY and then make
> > I2C_CLIENT_PUSHPULL involve I2C_M_DROP_ADDRESS | I2C_M_ADD_PARITY.
> 
> Hmm, I'm not completely sold on the whole idea of having special
> flags, esp. since it seems that ie the AXP221 may operate in normal
> i2c mode in some designs too. So ideally we would just hide from
> clients that this is something else then plain i2c. So that we can have
> an axp221 driver which is not even aware about this weird i2c-variant and
> will just work independent on how the axp221 is hooked up.

I don't think we actually saw in real life an AXP221 connected only
using i2c. I'd say we shouldn't worry too much about a theorical
corner case that we never saw, until we actually see it.

> Likewise it would be useful to have the i2cdump utility just work, etc.

I'm not sure I want the i2c-tools to start poking around the PMIC.

> So maybe a flag which is a hint that this is special on the controller,
> but I don't think we should be checking for special flags in the messages
> on the controller side. Basically the whole p2wi allows reading / writing
> byte registers, so I2C_FUNC_SMBUS_BYTE is a 1:1 mapping of the functionality,
> as for the address, we can just check it is the one address used to do
> the initial setup, and if it is not then just return an error.

Yes, we obviously have to check for the address in the xfer function.

> >>> Not sure about the I2C-to-PushPull switch: Is it 100% host configuration
> >>> or does it also depend on the one slave attached? 
> >>
> >> The datasheet we've suggests that it actually influences the one slave
> >> attached. Note that u-boot on this machines will likely already have made
> >> the switch, but I guess we don't want to count on that.
> > 
> > Can we detect if this switching was already made?
> 
> I don't think we can. But I think doing the switch a second time is ok /
> does not result in an error.

And it will probably mangle the PMIC configuration. I'm not very
comfortable with that..

Maxime

-- 
Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-07  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-03 14:55 I2C adapters protocol deviation Maxime Ripard
2014-04-03 15:30 ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]   ` <533D7E81.4050900-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-04 11:49     ` Maxime Ripard
2014-04-04 12:26     ` Wolfram Sang
2014-04-06 14:01       ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]         ` <53415E50.9000402-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-06 15:37           ` Wolfram Sang
2014-04-06 17:18             ` Hans de Goede
     [not found]               ` <53418C61.6020604-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-07  7:49                 ` Boris BREZILLON
     [not found]                   ` <5342589B.5000600-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-07 12:06                     ` Hans de Goede
2014-04-07  8:15                 ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2014-04-07 12:07                   ` Hans de Goede
2014-04-07  8:01             ` Maxime Ripard

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