From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Grygorii Strashko
<grygorii.strashko-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
Wolfram Sang <wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Sekhar Nori <nsekhar-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
Kevin Hilman
<khilman-1D3HCaltpLuhEniVeURVKkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>,
Santosh Shilimkar
<ssantosh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Murali Karicheri <m-karicheri2-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [2/5] i2c: davinci: query STP always when NACK is received
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:02:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141124200235.GV4431@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <547333EB.5050403-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
Hello Grygorii,
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 03:34:35PM +0200, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
> On 11/23/2014 10:33 PM, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > A call to .master_xfer with a message sequence implicitly expects ACKs
> > from the slave and doesn't tell anything about what should be done on a
> > NAK. So IMHO you must not send a P when the slave responds with a NAK,
> > but error out and let the sender decide if it wants to reply with P or
> > Sr.
>
> Sry, but what should be done is defined by I2C/SMbus specs? Does it?
> For SMBus devices, the specification states (http://smbus.org/specs/)
> "4.2.Acknowledge (ACK) and not acknowledge (NACK)":
> - "The slave device detects an invalid command or invalid data. In this
> case the slave device must not acknowledge the received byte. The master
> upon detection of this condition must generate a STOP condition and
> retry the transaction"
> For I2C devices, the specification states [http://www.nxp.com/documents/user_manual/UM10204.pdf]:
> "3.1.6 Acknowledge (ACK) and Not Acknowledge (NACK)"
> "When SDA remains HIGH during this ninth clock pulse, this is defined as the Not
> Acknowledge signal. The master can then generate either a STOP condition to
> abort the transfer, or a repeated START condition to start a new transfer."
Yes, that's exactly what I meant. The master has the choice, and the
driver should not eliminate options here.
> Let take a look on i2c/smbus xfer:
> i2c_lock_adapter(adap)
> adap->algo->master_xfer/smbus_xfer()
> i2c_unlock_adapter(adap);
> |- rt_mutex_unlock(&adapter->bus_lock);
> |- task switch
>
> So, there is no guarantee that next xfer will address the same I2C client device,
> which, in turn, may lead to BB detection (will lead to BB detection if previous
> transfer has been not acknowledged by SMbus client device).
That's a valid concern.
> Small summary, I2C core + Davinci I2C driver provide ability to use repeated
> start (Sr) only within one I2C transaction - which is a number of write/read
> operations specified by i2c_msg array. NACK always interrupts transaction
> with -EREMOTEIO.
>
> Also, the I2C core doesn't provide ability to manually send P.
Hmm, Wolfram, what do you think?
Best regards
Uwe
--
Pengutronix e.K. | Uwe Kleine-König |
Industrial Linux Solutions | http://www.pengutronix.de/ |
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-24 20:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-20 10:03 [PATCH 0/5] i2c: davinci improvements and fixes Grygorii Strashko
2014-11-20 10:03 ` [PATCH 1/5] i2c: i2c-davinci: switch to use platform_get_irq Grygorii Strashko
2014-11-20 21:48 ` [1/5] " Uwe Kleine-König
[not found] ` <20141120214838.GA346-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-21 11:01 ` Grygorii Strashko
[not found] ` <546F1B7D.1020209-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-21 14:03 ` Rob Herring
2014-11-21 14:59 ` Grygorii Strashko
[not found] ` <1416477788-5544-1-git-send-email-grygorii.strashko-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-20 10:03 ` [PATCH 2/5] i2c: davinci: query STP always when NACK is received Grygorii Strashko
[not found] ` <1416477788-5544-3-git-send-email-grygorii.strashko-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-20 22:19 ` [2/5] " Uwe Kleine-König
[not found] ` <20141120221953.GI27002-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-21 12:48 ` Grygorii Strashko
[not found] ` <546F34B9.1000206-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-21 13:10 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-11-21 15:33 ` Grygorii Strashko
[not found] ` <546F5B51.1030006-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-23 20:33 ` Uwe Kleine-König
[not found] ` <20141123203314.GF4431-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 13:34 ` Grygorii Strashko
[not found] ` <547333EB.5050403-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 20:02 ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2014-11-20 10:03 ` [PATCH 3/5] i2c: recovery: change input parameter to i2c_adapter for prepare/unprepare_recovery Grygorii Strashko
[not found] ` <1416477788-5544-4-git-send-email-grygorii.strashko-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-21 18:49 ` [3/5] " Uwe Kleine-König
2014-11-20 10:03 ` [PATCH 4/5] i2c: davinci: use bus recovery infrastructure Grygorii Strashko
[not found] ` <1416477788-5544-5-git-send-email-grygorii.strashko-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-21 19:07 ` [4/5] " Uwe Kleine-König
[not found] ` <20141121190744.GB4431-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-21 19:33 ` Grygorii Strashko
[not found] ` <546F9382.40102-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-23 20:36 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-11-24 13:26 ` Grygorii Strashko
[not found] ` <547331F2.3000006-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 20:07 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-11-20 10:03 ` [PATCH 5/5] i2c: davinci: use ICPFUNC to toggle I2C as gpio for bus recovery Grygorii Strashko
[not found] ` <1416477788-5544-6-git-send-email-grygorii.strashko-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-23 17:04 ` [5/5] " Uwe Kleine-König
[not found] ` <20141123170400.GC4431-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 13:15 ` Grygorii Strashko
[not found] ` <54732F8E.4080105-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 18:13 ` Mike Looijmans
[not found] ` <54737532.1050808-KQxf8TFvCoAi8rCdYzckzA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 19:22 ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-11-24 19:45 ` Uwe Kleine-König
[not found] ` <20141124194533.GU4431-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25 13:04 ` Grygorii Strashko
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20141124200235.GV4431@pengutronix.de \
--to=u.kleine-koenig-bicnvbalz9megne8c9+irq@public.gmane.org \
--cc=grygorii.strashko-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org \
--cc=khilman-1D3HCaltpLuhEniVeURVKkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org \
--cc=linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \
--cc=linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \
--cc=m-karicheri2-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org \
--cc=nsekhar-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org \
--cc=ssantosh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org \
--cc=wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).