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From: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
To: Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>
Cc: Yoshihiro Kaneko <ykaneko0929@gmail.com>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] i2c: rcar: Support ACK by HW auto restart after NACK
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:11:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150327131104.GC19151@katana> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150306221809.GB6572@katana>

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On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 11:18:09PM +0100, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> 
> > > >Even if R-Car I2C received NACK, after that it might receive ACK
> > > >by HW auto restart. In case of that, driver would continue process.
> > > >If R-Car I2C didn't receive ACK, the driver would detect timeout
> > > >and would report NACK as -ENXIO.
> > > >
> > > >Signed-off-by: Ryo Kataoka <ryo.kataoka.wt@renesas.com>
> > > >Signed-off-by: Yoshihiro Kaneko <ykaneko0929@gmail.com>
> > > 
> > > Excuse me, but what exactly is HW auto restart in this case? Is it a feature
> > > of the I2C slave?
> > 
> > I asked Kataoka-san about this and his response was as follows:
> > 
> >     It is a feature of the i2c-rcar(H/W) master.
> > 
> >     If system(CPU) is busy, NACK procedure may have interrupt latency.
> >     Since the clear of ICMCR.ESG bit is delayed, i2c-rcar(H/W) may auto-restart
> >     after NACK. Please refer to ESG bit of H/W UM section 55.3.5.
> > 
> >     For example, this is I2C write transmitting.
> >     1.Start / 2.SlaveAddr,ACK / 3.RegAddr,ACK / 4.RegData,ACK / 5.Stop
> > 
> >     If No.2 has NACK and interruption has delay, this transmitting is as follows.
> >     1.Start / 2.SlaveAddr,NACK/ 1x.auto-restart / 2x.SlaveAddr,ACK
> >                                     / 3.RegAddr,ACK / 4.RegData,ACK / 5.Stop
> > 
> >     NACK of No.2 is invalidated by ACK of No.2x. It means recover.
> 
> Does this make some I2C device work which did not work before?
> 
> Most I2C devices always ack their address, so NACK very often means
> "nothing is there". I think it makes sense that the rcar driver returns
> ENXIO in this case which is documented to be used for NACK after address
> phase. Then, the i2c client driver should know if this means "not there"
> or "currently busy". And it should know when is a good time for another
> try. As I read the patch, the driver would use the auto-restart feature
> until the timeout is reached. That would make bus scanning pretty slow,
> too.

Hi,

any news on this one?

Kind regards,

   Wolfram


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-27 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-15 14:44 [PATCH/RFC] i2c: rcar: Support ACK by HW auto restart after NACK Yoshihiro Kaneko
     [not found] ` <1424011480-3551-1-git-send-email-ykaneko0929-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-23 13:08   ` Wolfram Sang
     [not found]     ` <2775fbb6b2e2b333ef2457133f419d4d-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-04  4:06       ` Simon Horman
     [not found]         ` <20150304040635.GA12776-/R6kz+dDXgpPR4JQBCEnsQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-06 22:18           ` Wolfram Sang
2015-03-27 13:11             ` Wolfram Sang [this message]
2015-03-27 22:04               ` Simon Horman

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