From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: York Sun <yorksun@freescale.com>
Cc: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: I2C class bitmask
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:27:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150523162737.GA4981@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <555E4913.9070805@freescale.com>
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 02:07:31PM -0700, York Sun wrote:
> Lee,
>
> Is there any convention regarding I2C class bitmask? I see only three are
> defined for 3.12.19 and four for 4.0
>
> I2C_CLASS_HWMON, I2C_CLASS_DDC, I2C_CLASS_SPD, I2C_CLASS_DEPRECATED
>
> I am working on a clock chip driver (SI5338) and trying to detect them (multiple
> chips in i2c mux). It would be a lot easier to have its own class, like
> I2C_CLASS_CLOCK. It is trivial to add a line to i2c.h file. Just checking if
> this is a bad idea.
>
A class is supposed to indicate if a specific chip class is likely to be seen
on an i2c adapter, and that it may be necessary to auto-detect it (an example
are I2C_CLASS_HWMON type devices on PCs). The tendency, though, is to drop
existing markers for I2C_CLASS_xxx from adapter drivers as much as possible
because it slows down the boot process (see upstream commit 0c176170089c3).
Auto-detection (with the _detect function) is not a preferred means to
instantiate a device. It takes time, and it is more or less unreliable.
For some chips, a read on its i2c register space can result in a chip reset,
or it can cause it to lose its programming. Worst case it can turn a system
into a brick.
Preferred instantiations are listed in Documentation/i2c/instantiating-devices.
Instantiation with devicetree, ACPI, or through i2c_register_board_info()
would probably be the best available methods to instantiate a clock chip.
Given that, first question is why you would want to have the chip auto-detected
in the first place. Is there any reason to believe that explicit instantiation
would not work in your system ? What are those reasons ?
On top of that, the SI5338 does not have a clean way to detect the chip.
It does not have a chip ID register, and it is multi-banked. Given the
similarities of the various Silicon Labs clock chips, it may not even be
possible to reliably distinguish it from other SI chips. So even if you
had a good reason to auto-detect the chip, it would be _very_ unreliable.
This seems to be quite undesirable and risky for a clock chip.
Are you really sure that you want and need that ?
Thanks,
Guenter
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2015-05-21 21:07 I2C class bitmask York Sun
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2015-05-23 16:50 ` York Sun
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