From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman
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Cc: "Tomeu Vizoso"
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Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:02:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151022150213.GT32532@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151022144405.GC21861-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 07:44:05AM -0700, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> <oops, sent too early...>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:05:11AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > Given that downstreams are already carrying as many hacks as they
> > could think of to speed total boot up, I think this is effectively
> > telling them to go away.
>
> No I'm not, I'm asking for real data, not hand-wavy-this-is-going-to
> solve-the-random-issue-i'm-having type patch by putting random calls in
> semi-random subsystems all over the kernel.
+100000000000, fully agree.
There's too much verbal diarrhoea going on in this thread and no facts.
I've been waiting for real data too, and there's not one shred of it, or
even a hint that it might appear. So, the conclusion I'm coming to is
that there isn't any data to back up the claims made in this thread.
If it was such a problem, then in the _eight_ days that this has been
discussed so far, _someone_ would have sent some data showing the
problem. I think the fact is, there is no data.
Someone prove me wrong. Someone post the verifiable data showing that
there is a problem to be solved here.
Someone show what the specific failure cases are that are hampering
vendors moving forwards. Someone show the long boot times by way of
kernel message log. Someone show some evidence of the problems that
have been alluded to.
If no one can show some evidence, there isn't a problem here. :)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-22 15:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-14 8:34 [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-14 9:26 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-15 11:42 ` Tomeu Vizoso
[not found] ` <1444909328-24761-1-git-send-email-tomeu.vizoso-ZGY8ohtN/8qB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-16 21:23 ` Olof Johansson
2015-10-17 15:19 ` Rob Herring
2015-10-19 16:52 ` Olof Johansson
2015-10-17 6:57 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-17 15:04 ` Rob Herring
2015-10-17 15:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-17 16:28 ` Rob Herring
2015-10-17 16:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-17 17:54 ` Rob Clark
2015-10-17 18:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-17 18:45 ` Rob Clark
2015-10-17 18:59 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-17 19:39 ` Rob Clark
2015-10-17 20:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-17 19:04 ` Noralf Trønnes
2015-10-17 19:48 ` Rob Clark
2015-10-18 19:41 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-18 19:29 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-18 19:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-18 19:53 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-19 9:44 ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-19 9:52 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-19 11:02 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-19 12:35 ` Rob Herring
2015-10-19 12:47 ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-19 14:50 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-19 15:29 ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-19 15:43 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-19 18:27 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-10-19 18:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-19 23:47 ` Alexandre Courbot
2015-10-20 11:12 ` David Woodhouse
2015-10-19 15:58 ` Rob Herring
2015-10-19 21:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-19 22:58 ` Rob Herring
[not found] ` <CAL_JsqKa3MFJUWKV2KxPE_NmrP2g4dOD3zr+0Kyx4yBkDOg2HA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-20 7:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-20 14:15 ` Rob Herring
[not found] ` <CAL_JsqJuu5_Osqi+X6M6UeRDZFQB+_8riYDF1gvsGayk5-4SFw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-20 14:40 ` Alan Stern
2015-10-20 15:36 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-20 16:04 ` Alan Stern
2015-10-20 16:21 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-20 17:14 ` Alan Stern
2015-10-20 19:35 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-20 23:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-21 6:15 ` Jean-Francois Moine
2015-10-22 0:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-22 9:14 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-27 5:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-20 23:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-21 8:55 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-21 23:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-19 16:04 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-19 12:34 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-19 13:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20151019131821.GA32532-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-19 14:10 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-19 14:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-19 15:00 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-19 15:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-19 16:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-19 16:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-20 15:46 ` Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe (was: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing) Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21 3:58 ` Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe Frank Rowand
2015-10-21 8:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21 15:36 ` Frank Rowand
2015-10-21 16:55 ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-10-21 17:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21 18:13 ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-10-21 18:28 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-22 15:12 ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-10-21 18:02 ` Frank Rowand
2015-10-21 18:29 ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-10-21 20:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-22 0:05 ` Frank Rowand
2015-10-22 13:20 ` Alternative approach to solve the deferred probe (was: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing) Mark Brown
[not found] ` <CAAObsKB2BUZ-smid45wOdAQw6h2yNqCydk+azAFNk69ewHJtZQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-21 15:59 ` [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing Frank Rowand
2015-10-21 16:27 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-21 18:18 ` Frank Rowand
2015-10-21 21:03 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-21 21:12 ` Rob Herring
2015-10-21 21:50 ` Frank Rowand
2015-10-22 9:05 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-22 14:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-10-22 14:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20151022144405.GC21861-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-22 15:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2015-10-22 23:33 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-22 18:53 ` Frank Rowand
2015-10-22 19:26 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20151022192639.GC27248-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-23 12:28 ` Tomeu Vizoso
[not found] ` <562930AB.1070203-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-23 15:45 ` Tim Bird
2015-10-23 16:34 ` Rob Herring
2015-10-24 14:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-24 22:06 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-25 13:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-26 1:12 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-26 10:51 ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-26 12:55 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2015-10-26 23:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-10-25 19:45 ` Andrew F. Davis
2015-10-24 17:55 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
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